Bush: "It was a thumping."

President Bush is reacting to the election results. Among other things, he's asked Donald Rumsfeld to resign.


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    He also suddenly says that Pelosi and Reid care as much about securing the country as he does. Of course, that was true even when he said, a week or two ago, that voting for the Democrats was a victory for the terrorists.

  • Erik Sorensen (unverified)

    That was "thumpin'" without a "G".

  • Sid Leader (unverified)

    It was so sweet of W to plant the official Cosa Nostra "kiss of death" on Rummy's cheek a few days before our historic LANDSLIDE win.

    Once W says he loves you, grab a spade.

    You are DEAD.

  • Chris (unverified)

    Bye Rummy, thanks for the mess.

  • Zak J. (unverified)

    Naw, the "kiss of death" is when Rummy gets his own Medal of Freedom.

  • Gil Johnson (unverified)

    I have to say that some of Rummy's ideas had a lot of merit--that is, a lighter, smaller and more sophisticated army; killing some white elephant weapons projects and modernizing the management of a huge bureuacracy. If a Democratic secretary of defense had proposed these things, we would be applauding it.

    The schizophrenice thing was to invade a large country that required an enormous amount of ground troops--and then not send enough.

  • Larry K (unverified)

    Gil - I'm glad to see someone say it, because it's true. Rummey, for all his other faults and mistakes, absolutely did the right thing by transforming the military into a lighter, more mobile, more lethal force. I guess that makes him 1 for 10 or so. But an important 1 for sure.

  • Zak J. (unverified)

    Ideas don't exist in a vacuum. You win wars by adapting strategy to meet the challenges you are actually facing (as Gil noted), not the hypothetical challenges you expect to face.

    Rumsfeld is the worst secretary of defense since McNamara--another brilliant politician who lived too much in his own head. Rummy has been arrogant and irrational in his quest to reorganize the military into a smaller, lean reaction force when, as Gil notes, that is precisely the opposite of what Iraq needed. No one outside of Rumsfeld's direct chain of command has ever said we didn't need more troops. The obvious conclusion of that is that Rumsfeld told his underlings what to think and they told him what he wanted to hear. It discredits them all.

    The very first lesson they teach you in the army is that the role of the army is very simple: to control the area on which it is deployed. Rummy NEVER got that, and the horrors of Iraq are the result. The lack of control in Iraq is why we've lost so many fine people in uniform. Their deaths lie at Rummy's doorstep.

    His pig-headedness, and that of his boss, has led us to a position where now bringing peace, let alone Democracy, to Iraq may be impossible. His insistence for the use of "gloves off," extralegal interrogation techniques, i.e. torture & murder, led directly to the abuses of prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the loss of support we've seen from the entire world as we have abandoned the principles of truth and justice that made this country strong.

    Don't cry for Rumsfeld; save your tears for his victims, American troops among them.

  • Dan (unverified)

    Congratulations to all of you Democrats, socialists, unionistas etc.

    You won a huge victory and lived up to all of your big talk. It isn't often that such big talk comes with big results. So, I take my hat off to your success.

    Enjoy it. The perfect days of any season don't last long. You deserve the win just as much as the Republicans deserve to lose. They have betrayed conservatives in a huge way.

    GW is one of the most fiscally liberal presidents we've ever seen. His army of Senators (yes, that includes you Gordon Smith) and congressmen are mostly of the same shallow cloth.

    The Republicans failed at leadership and it is now your turn. I hope you do a good job because the future of my children depend on it. I have serious doubts though.

    You've opposed wire taps for foreign calls to terrorists.

    You support drivers licenses for illegals.

    You must now pay-off the unions with favors.

    You will turn our health care system into a big replica of Canada. Do you know where Canadiens who can afford good health care go?

    I hope you do the right thing so that I can vote for you. Remember, I and many like me are conservatives, not Republicans. We didn't show up at the polls because there weren't any conservatives to vote for!

    Many of your Democrats that did well in the elections ran well to the right of your party platforms. Ned Lamont was a far left Liberal and got crushed.

    See you all in two years.


    Conservative Troll.

  • Garrett (unverified)


    Where do Canadians go for health care? I've never heard of them coming here. Oh by the way the US is the LAST industrialized nation that doesn't have universal health care. What favors do Democrats give to Unions? We don't try to bust them up? I mean really...those big bad unions fighting for higher wages and better benefits for workers...they're scum aren't they? Drivers licenses for illegals...all I have to say to that is wah wah wah...go cry somewhere else. The problem with Bush's illegal wiretaps is that he wasn't just wiretapping terrorists and you're completely naive if you actually think he was.

  • Tenskwatawa (unverified)

    Well, not so fast, Joe Troll, treason investigators want to ask you and others some questions, if you heard any one saying anything in any meeting you may have innocently attended, and riffle through your computer hard disk for old emails you may have received.

    Don't worry, if you have nothing to hide and have acted totally on your own principles and knowledge, if you know you are innocent and IF YOU HAVE NO REASON TO RUN AWAY AND HIDE -- Why should you object to answering a few questions?

    It is only casual conversation, and treason investigations into rightist extremism brainwashed grunts are only going to ask you a few questions that may lead to higher ups in the NaziReich-like organization. It takes only a few minutes ... and bring a towel, in case you get wetted.

    HERE is what we know so far, as Wayne Madsen Report(dot)COM has been recording the epidemic identity thefts of computers being carried out by nazisympathizers in the Intelligence Community to load into their TIA fascist hatebase. And, today, Madsen lists the leaders of the investigators who want to talk with you, Joe Troll, don't leave town.

    November 8, 2006 -- The GOP strategy is shaping up to blaming the new Democratic Congress for present foreign and domestic ills even before it is sworn in.

    Bush is in denial about losing his longtime rubber stamp Congress. His first shock treatment will come from House and Senate chairmen who have been stonewalled on everything from investigating pre-war intelligence and Pentagon contract fraud to torture and rendition flights.

    John Conyers (D-MI) becomes chairman of the powerful House Judiciary Committee. His portfolio to investigate election fraud and Patriot Act abuses may result in possible impeachment articles being put forward.

    John Dingell (D-MI) becomes chairman of the House Commerce Committee. His committee has oversight for energy (Cheney's secret energy task force is under the gun), telecommunications (media consolidation issues could be on the table), consumer protection, and public health.

    Barney Frank (D-MA) becomes chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Minimum wage increase on the agenda.

    Charlie Rangel (D-NY) becomes chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. Rolling back tax cuts for billionaires as well as corporate offshore tax havens will be on the agenda.

    Henry Waxman (D-CA) becomes chairman of the House Government Reform Committee. He will exercise subpoena power to bring witnesses (friendly and hostile) before his committee to investigate Pentagon contract fraud (watch out Halliburton and KBR).

    Ike Skelton (D-MO) becomes chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Will also investigate Pentagon contract fraud.

    Alcee Hastings (D-FL) may become chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Look for real fireworks here with former members of the US Intelligence Community being called to testify on pre-war intelligence cooking.

    Neo-conservative ally Tom Lantos is slated to take over the House International Relations Committee. This is the only committee where the Bush administration will have anything close to a safe haven. Lantos was a supporter of the Iraq war.

    In the Senate, the Judiciary Committee under the chairmanship of Patrick Leahy will be able to bottle up any right-wing nominations to the Supreme Court, if any should arise. Bush will be forced to submit the names of moderate consensus judges.

    Joe Biden will become Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where Iraq will be at the top of the agenda.

    Jeff Bingaman becomes Chairman of the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, where gasoline price gouging and Interior Department scandals will feature prominently.

    Jay Rockefeller becomes Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence with subpoena power on pre-war intelligence cooking. Pat Roberts, who has stonewalled for the White House, will be relegated to ranking member.

    Carl Levin becomes Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    Max Baucus becomes Chairman of the powerful Senate Finance Committee.

    Robert Byrd takes over as Chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee, Byrd also becomes President pro tem of the Senate, fourth in line for the White House after Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Dick Cheney.

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    As sad and weak as even the truth is, this is even more a preposterous lie: "You've opposed wire taps for foreign calls to terrorists."

    Actually, Democrats (and some Republicans) oppose WARRANTLESS wiretaps.

    I personally think spying on US citizens is a pathetic breach of the Constitution (not to mention FISA) in its own right, but for Democratic Congresspeople the issue is one of warrants, not wiretapping.

    See, that's why Republicans lost. They'll need to reacquaint themselves with concepts like truth, integrity and compromise before we'll see them return.

  • Todd Ellner (unverified)

    Now that he's been rat-fucked and had the Dems knock him down and take his lunch money he's conciliatory and talks about bipartisanship. To hell with him. He had dozens of chances to be anything besides a despot from inside his bubble. He turned them all down. Take away his toys and let light into the dark corners.

  • Dan (unverified)


    the election wasn't about warrantless wiretapping at all. That is an issue that didn't work for Democrats.

    Republicans lost because they no longer stand for the things they did when they were first elected.

    By the way TJ, it is people like Todd E and Garrett that will keep moderates from joining the Democrats over the longer pull. They define a lack of class.

    Once again, congrats on the big victory.

  • Zak J. (unverified)

    Bush was repudiated for his entire approach to governing. That includes his wiping with the Constitution. It's going to stop now.

    But Tenskwatawa is completely correct--despite the Bush admin. having thrown in the towel in Iraq months ago (note the flight of the contractors and the increasing talk about "Iraqi government failures" as evidence), they & their cohorts are busy laying the groundwork to blame Democrats for any and all future problems we have there. Bush showed this strategy in his press conference this morning when he said Democrats don't believe our people should have the tools they need to fight the war on terror. He wasn't talking about helmets & humvees; he was talking about warrantless wiretaps, torture, and secret detentions. He clearly didn't get the message yesterday, and this keeps me from any desire to reconcile with him.

    Bring on the hearings!

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    Dan, when did I ever say it WAS an election issue? I was simply correcting your gross falsehood that Democrats oppose wiretapping, when they so clearly don't.

  • Sid Leader (unverified)

    Hi Zac J.

    You said Bush might give Rummy The Presidential of Freedom.

    Well, guess what?

    That would make TWO of them for Rummy. He got one back in the 1970's.


    Of course, Rummy could sell the extra one onEbay to pay for his new glasses.

    Seems he's been wearing the wrong prescription for six long years now.

    Short-sighted, bigtime!

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