We're so nice.

Quoth the New York Times:

"NICE” is an adjective that Portland, Ore., can't seem to shake. But below the fleece-clad and Teva-wearing exterior lurks a cool and refreshingly unneurotic city that marches to its own cosmopolitan beat. Truth is, Portland doesn't want to be Seattle, its highly caffeinated neighbor to the north. With less traffic, better public transportation and Mount Hood in its backyard, this self-styled City of Roses doesn't stand in anybody's shadow. Its vibrant downtown overflows with urban pleasures like chic restaurants, funky nightclubs and spritely neighborhoods crackling with youthful energy, but nobody's boasting. That's another nice thing about Portland.

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  • Steve Bucknum (unverified)

    Everyone in Portland must just be beside themselves with such praise from NEW YORK! Nice, oh my gawd!

    The covered wagons will be coming again.

  • jim karlock (unverified)

    This is the kind or article that was probably created through the backstage efforts of some Portlanders with the aim being to get more people to come here to fill all those new condos they are shoving into every nighborhood.

    Thanks JK

  • Hawthorne (unverified)

    A little touchy, don't you think? Did you actually read the article? It's from the travel section and it's called "36 hours in Portland, Ore." The word condo only appears once. Of course they also neglected to mention crack pots with conspiracy theories.

  • Get A Grip (unverified)

    Don't know if his domicile has changed since late 2004, but at least as of that date the clown who wrote this lived in Seattle:


    Which at least leads one to wonder if even the "nice" comment was a trademark NW passive-aggressive "compliment".

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    It seems the NYT sends a reporter to Portland about once every 9-12 months to write a piece like this.

  • Intercaust (unverified)

    They forgot to mention all the great strip clubs. =)

  • lw (unverified)

    Do you ever get tired of the kind of people who always like to measure themselves to others, to build themselves up with comparisons, to talk about themselves, to seek every kind of compliment they can acquire, or squeeze out of a comment? Most of the time I like the person who just lives, and well-without making measuring posts.

  • New Yawkah (unverified)

    Jim, don't you know that all the New Yorkers are already on their way here... to ride our shiny new Aerial Tram!

  • Logan 5 (unverified)

    I thought it was a pretty nice piece. But we are just as caffeinated as Seattle.

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    I moved here from Texas in 1997. It took awhile for Portland to grow on me. I even tried to move back home in 2000, and for the first time could really see the difference. I couldn't wait to get back here. I worked for a bit in Seattle and found it to be a huge mess of traffic and stress. I was in California for awhile, and other than the flowers don't really have any memory of it (that speaks volumes to me). Some times Portland (and Oregon in general) is overly impressed with itself, but other times it blows me away with its people and philosophies. This city is far from perfect, but it really is a nice and special place. It is hard not to take it for granted until you can compare it. Not measure it against other places, because it isn't a contest to me, but compare and know really whether this place works for you or not. If it doesn't, that's fine. If it does, enjoy the appreciation. I actually think that the people who appreciate this city and area the most are folks who are either not originally from here, or left and came back.

  • Frank (unverified)

    You know, it would be a good thing if a bunch of wealthy New York expats come and snatch up all those condos. Better than having em sit unsold. Also - better for local commerce.

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    I too moved here from Texas. However, I don't ever want to go back for more than a visit. I miss the food (Casa Ole, Joe's BBQ in Alvin, Pancho's and Sonic - at least I can get Sonic when I'm out near Beaverton now) and of course my family. There's also those things I can't get at the grocery store, like Mrs. Baird's breads, Blue Bell ice cream, etc.

    But 105+ degrees before you add on 10+ degrees for the heat index, hurricanes, tornadoes, really bad storms (like just went through the state and killed some people), horrible racism, etc. -- I can do without that.

    I love it here in Oregon and couldn't imagine moving back. But I also don't want to live in Portland. I grew up in a small rural town, and I don't like the big cities. I lived in Houston for a year and hated it. Gresham's as big a city as I can do, and that's only because it was built to appear much smaller than it actually is.

  • pedro (unverified)


    if you're looking for a conspircy, it's more likely coming from jet blue, who just added a direct flight from new york.

  • BlueNote (unverified)

    If Portland can be more like NYC in its cultural offerings and diversity, but without any of the actual a-hole New Yorkers themselves, we might actually have a pretty nice place to live.

  • Karl (unverified)


    Don't you think your wish is difficult to achieve when a great number of Oregonians think poorly of all those "outsiders" that move in from out of state? And for these same xenophobes, heaven forbid if the new people should be non-white.

  • Rick T (unverified)

    As a long time Oregonian.. not a Portlander all that time.. I have noticed that we seem to still attract people who are polite, large hearted and unaffected, mostly.

    I like most newly-immigrated Oregonians.

    The old 1850 reasons for dropping off the potato truck from San Francisco to Seattle still apply in large part; concern for others, concern for the land, and concern for the future.

    I am, however, worried that Oregon will be loved to death. Repeal Measure 37.

  • lin qiao (unverified)

    I guess we need someone from Team Bogdanski to explain why condos are inherently loathsome. No, I don't presently choose to live in one, but I don't see why having the choice is a problem.

    Wasn't that item from the NY Times a bit heavy on the donwtown/NW Portland angle? What have they got against the neighborhoods that aren't chock-a-block with trendy boutiques and furniture stores selling three thousand dollar italian leather sofas?

  • kittysimone (unverified)

    Quote: If Portland can be more like NYC in its cultural offerings and diversity, but without any of the actual a-hole New Yorkers themselves, we might actually have a pretty nice place to live.

    Who's the a-hole?

  • Dan (unverified)

    Most of the New Yorkers I've met - I visit there frequently and know a bunch of natives - are great people; dare I say it - "nice" even. No wonder they like Portland so much.

  • Himself (unverified)

    I just posted a response on my blog. 36 Hours in North Portland. Enjoy.

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    I lived in New York City for ten years. New Yorkers are much friendlier than anyone gives them credit for.

    Just don't walk four or five abreast on the sidewalks at 2.5 mph while craning your necks to look at the skyscrapers.

  • Ms Mel Harmon (unverified)
    <h2>I moved here in 1990 and I chose Oregon and the Portland area specifically. I been to all but three states and knew since 1980 that I would be making my home here. Once I saw Oregon, it moved to the top of my list and then I compared every place I visited and "nope, Oregon is still it for me". I like the variety in the landscapes (ocean, mountains, deserts, and valleys--all in one state). I like the laid back attitude of the people (compared to where I moved from), but mostly I liked that most folks here seem willing to live and let live (again, more than where I moved from). There is more room for open, honest discussion and debate. There is, in general, more thought put into the planning and the ideas of how a city/state should be run for the good of the people. Oregon and Portland (and Gresham where I moved in 2000)all need new ideas and involved people to move forward and that's one of the reasons I enjoy BlueOregon--we may disagree sometimes but we all want what we feel is best for our cities, state and country. I can honestly say that I live in the closest thing to paradise I've ever seen. Again, maybe this is a reflection more on where I came from (Oklahoma) than where I am, but I don't think so. Portland IS a nice city and I'm glad to live in the Northwest. If you're like me and love living in the Northwest, I'm happy for you. If, on the other hand, you wonder if you'd be happier somewhere else, try findyourspot.com--its a neat little site. I did it and--suprise--Portland was #1 on my list. No suprise there. Here's to Portland--a really nice little city.</h2>
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