My Guilt Feelings About Dave Hunt, Yamhill County and Randy Leonard

Steve Novick

One of the drawbacks of being politically active, relatively gregarious, and Jewish in a small state is that I am in a more or less constant state of guilt.  This past week has been worse than most: I have not one, not two, but three things to feel guilty about.

I gave Dave Hunt his first campaign contribution in his first run for the House (at a party in Diane Linn’s house – doesn’t that take you back?) and I think he has in many ways done a remarkable job as Speaker.  So I feel guilty about having spent last Tuesday trashing his pride and joy, the transportation bill.

The Yamhill County Democrats invited me to speak at their annual dinner this year.  So I feel guilty about highlighting the Newberg-Dundee bypass, which many Yamhillites see as the only possible cure for the ugly traffic congestion they suffer from, in my assault on the transportation bill.

I know that Randy Leonard really thinks that a AAA ballpark will do a lot for the citizens of Lents.  So I feel guilty about trashing his proposal. 

Now, that doesn’t mean I think I’m wrong about any of those issues.  I think the transportation bill shouldn’t have hand-picked projects (such as Newberg-Dundee), and should have addressed environmental concerns. I don’t think a ballpark in Lents will do any more for Lents than Yankee Stadium has done for its neighborhood in the Bronx in the past 86 years.

But in order to alleviate my guilt, I offer the following comments on each of these issues:

Dave Hunt.  I salute Dave Hunt as one of the hardest working politicians in show business.  I’ve seen him on the doorstep for Tina Kotek in her first primary in her current district. I’ve seen him on a November Sunday morning campaigning for Judy Stiegler.  I know that as a moderate Democrat he’s probably not too comfortable with taxing the wealthy and corporations to take the edge off some of the cuts to education, health care and public safety, but he’s stepping up to get it done anyway, because he knows it’s the only option that will fly.  And I appreciate that we do need money for the roads and he’s taking a political risk getting people for vote for a gas tax increase.  I just think that making political choices between projects is a really bad idea – and that at a minimum, the environmentalists needed to be in the room when the deal was cut.    

Yamhill County.  I know that they have awful traffic.  I know that part of that is caused by people in the Metro area driving to the casino and the coast, cluttering up a road that they use as a main street.  Tolling 99W and a new bypass in order to raise the money for the bypass has been discussed, but Yamhillites aren’t crazy about that idea. What about this idea?  Toll 99W but give everyone who actually lives in Yamhill County a free E-Z pass. Use the money from the toll from non-Yamhillites for transportation improvements in Yamhill County (not a $550 million bypass, but other smaller stuff they might need).  That should divert tourist traffic to other less problematic routes, and help Yamhillites alleviate their traffic pain.  (I’m sure commenters will say all the other routes are problematic too, but I ran this by someone with some expertise who said it wasn’t crazy, so I’m throwing it out there.) 

Randy Leonard and Lents.  If I’m going to diss Randy’s idea for how to help Lents – which I’m convinced won’t work at all – I should try to do something else for Lents. I hereby promise to go out to dinner in Lents at least four times a year, or as often as I go to a Portland Beavers game, whichever number is higher, thus making a small contribution to the Lents economy.  Anyone want to join me?   

There. I still feel guilty, but a little less so than I did earlier this morning. 


  • joel dan walls (unverified)
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    Right, Randy Leonard and his paymaster Lord Paulson are going to help Lents by privatizing PARK SPACE and turning it into a PARKING LOT. Mr. Novick, save the guilt for something else.

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    Steve, you pick the place in Lents, let people know & i'm sure you'll have at least a tableful of guests. granted, they may be people who read BlueOregon (sweet jesus) but you'll have your guests.

  • George Anonymuncule Seldes (unverified)
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    I'm glad that "the environmentalists" weren't in the room or they'd be falling all over themselves to sell the horror that is HB 2001 instead of glumly making excuses and shifting to the passive voice when discussing it (writing things like "the parts we supported were removed.")

    Of course, passive acceptance (learned helplessness is more like it) isn't pretty, but it lets Oregon environmentalists keep from having to confront the reality that Gov. K and the Democratic majorities on both ends of the capital don't give a damn about the environment except as a mantra.

  • jamie (unverified)
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    What exactly is the environmental problem with a highway?

    After all cars use less energy than trains and we can't all take the inter city buses.

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    Steve,

    This is one of the most refreshing Posts I have seen since I became addicted to political blogs. How often does a poster praise the people he disagrees with or expresses empathy (there's that word again) with the people he is opposing? Answer, almost never.

    Thank you for raising the level of discussion.

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    Well, Steve, it's not in Lents, but I hope you'll join us in Alberta for my graduation party. I sent you a Facebook invitation.

    Thanks for your comments on these issues. I agree on all three counts and have felt sort of guilty on all three counts. And I'm not even Jewish.

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    Re: Tolling 99W

    "If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will" -Master Yoda

    Do we need to create a new public authority to manage the toll? Once Yamhill County sets up a toll, will Washington County do the same? Will Polk County do the same? You toll me, I'll toll you.

  • Christian (unverified)
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    Yes, I have to agree, that's the coolest post by a politician I've seen in a good while, taking the time to honor people you disagree with.

    But really, the Lents Stadium idea is insane, and an EZ pass system that exempts residents is a great compromise.

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    Somehow I do not think that one government can tax visitors to that state/county/city and exclude its own citizens. I am not a lawyer, but I believe that would violate a host of interstate trade laws as well as the U.S. constitution. Could Oregon tax visitors to Oregon and not Oregonians? Could California? I don't think so.

  • Mike (unverified)
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    "Somehow I do not think that one government can tax visitors to that state/county/city and exclude its own citizens. I am not a lawyer, but I believe that would violate a host of interstate trade laws as well as the U.S. constitution. Could Oregon tax visitors to Oregon and not Oregonians? Could California? I don't think so."

    From what I recall of three relevant cases I read in 2nd yr con law I believe a State can discriminate against non-residents over non essential economic activity but not essential activity. So NH can't refuse to admit non-residents to the bar & SC can't charge out-of state shrimp fishermen a license fee 10x higher than what they charge SC fishermen but it MT can charge out of staters a mich higher license for bear hunting than Montanan residents.

    Whether charging out of staters a higher rate or a surtax on hotel rooms and car rentals etc would fall afoul of that rule I am unsure. Tourisim is an essential economic activity in many areas-the coast etc.

  • Cora Potter (unverified)
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    Wednesday night is discount night at the Takahashi - 104th and Holgate.

    The Cora y Huichol taco truck at 82nd and Holgate has fresh handmade tortillas.

    If you go to El Pato Feliz, order the Posole.

    Vien Huong Chinese restaurant does a good BBQ pork fried rice.

    The potato piroshki at Ararat are delicious - and you can dance to DJ Boris.

    Le Sorelle isn't open for dinner, but if you go for lunch, try the Lents Burger.

  • Randy Leonard (unverified)
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    "I hereby promise to go out to dinner in Lents...Anyone want to join me?"

    I do!

    We will eat a fabulous meal at El Pato Feliz, 5824 SE 92nd Ave.

    After work.

    You name the evening.

    You have my number.

  • Randy Leonard (unverified)
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    Oh...and I still love you.

  • Bill McDonald (unverified)
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    Randy, I have to admit I feel a little guilty about my criticisms of you over this Paulson deal. I'm clearly tapping into my overall outrage at the derivatives scandal that is threatening to destroy America. I do feel I'm right about how misguided and wrong this deal is, but I don't enjoy being angry about your performance in office. I actually get a kick out of your demeanor and see you as a true Portland character.

      Steve,
         I also feel a little guilty that I didn't do more to get you elected to the Senate. I did offer to write for you but you had all that covered anyway. Still the right line here or there could have turned the election so it was our loss.
        I did invite you to come on my cable access show, but you weren't interested, even while you suffered from a lack of campaign coverage. I'm still working on a way to feel guilty about that.
    
      Finally, I sold Jay Leno 645 jokes over the years, so I'm feeling very guilty about the Conan thing.
    
      There, I think that covers it.
    
  • Old Ducker (unverified)
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    If you're referring to the Casino at Grand Ronde, you may recall the indians original choice was to build it off I-5 and then Gov. Kitzhaber shot that down...

    To another poster, as for trains using more energy than cars I would add, "only when they're empty."

    :)

  • Cora Potter (unverified)
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    Oh and...both you and Randy are invited to my house for brunch anytime. Our house special drink is the Cava and whortleberry mimosa, and I make the best scones in the Pacific Northwest. (I have people that will give sworn testimony that this is true.)

  • Nick Christensen (unverified)
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    Randy, you may not have a great taste in sites for baseball stadiums, but you do have a great taste in burritos. El Pato is lo mejor in Portland taquerias.

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    Comparing a AAA baseball park to Yankee Stadium is a little disingenuous on a number of levels, Steve. The financing level is magnitudes smaller. The Lents stadium will belong to the city, not Steinbrenner. The Yankees got an enormous sweetheart deal that not even more favorable terms for Paulson than the RQ could come close to matching. To wit, per wiki:

    In December 2001, New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani announced "tentative agreements" for both the New York Yankees and New York Mets to build new stadiums. Of $1.6 billion sought for the stadiums, city and state taxpayers would pick up half the tab for construction, $800 million, along with $390 million on extra transportation.[6] The plan also said that the teams would be allowed to keep all parking revenues, which state officials had already said they wanted to keep to compensate the state for building new garages for the teams.[7] The teams would keep 96% of ticket revenues and 100% of all other revenues, not pay sales tax or property tax on the stadium, and would get low-cost electricity from New York state.[7] Business officials criticized the plan as giving too much money to successful teams with little reason to move to a different city.[7]

    A better marker might be the Cyclones or Staten Island Yanks, both of which are very successful, money-earning teams.

    The return income necessary to support it is smaller, and it also ignores the significant economic activity around the Stadium on game days--you ever been? The bars around River Ave and 151st were routinely packed before and after every time I went. Think Manhattanites go to the Bronx to drink beer otherwise? I don't.

    Also left unsaid is the point that it's a case of move it or lose it; they can't play at PGE and even without MLS the park is wholly unsuitable for AAA baseball. It's just too big.

  • Martin Burch (unverified)
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    I don't feel guilty for trashing the ballpark idea, or saying that if Randy backs it he's done in local politics. The ballpark is a waste of money we can use for real urban development projects, and siding with the Paulsons in Portland to spend public funds on a boondoggle... well, it's just not a wise move at all.

    I think Mr. Calhoun and others are right about the constitutionality and the hidden costs (collecting tolls) for non-Yamhillians in Yamhill County. That said, I believe Oregon is missing a golden opportunity to become a true leader in green fuel development and innovative ways to rake in revenue off that development. One thought that comes to mind is using a decentralized model of algae-based ethanol production (I'm happy to provide details on this if anyone wants the info) and the state getting royalties from any patents state universities or employees thereof on university time come up with in these technologies. That may not solve the Yamhill transportation problem in the next year, but I truly believe Oregon can produce billions -- not a typo, BILLIONS -- of dollars in the new green technologies.

    All we need is some of the gung-ho spirit and direction that made logging and farming the state's economic backbone for the first hundred years. I would LOVE to discuss this more. Hmmm, maybe I'll try a new essay for Kari.

    Finally, say when and where for the dinners, Steve. I'll bring a tableful of people, too.

    PS: Mr. McDonald -- I got the Leno joke. I may not have the guilt issues associated with western religion, but I do love your dry wit.

  • Bill McDonald (unverified)
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    Martin, Thanks for the kind words. I think he actually opened with my joke on the last night, but I'm going to wait 'til I get the check before I up the total to 646. Oh well, the count lost its meaning for me during the writers strike, much as my relationship with baseball changed when their strike canceled the World Series that one time.

        I did want Steve to win the Senate seat though. Damn, that would have been great. My part in the campaign was not destined to be. I had a break-in at the house the day before he declared, and they even stole my electric razor so I arrived at the kick-off function with serious stubble. That's absolutely true by the way - this all is.
    
        Randy introduced Steve and I was hoping I was seeing history in the making. Sadly, it didn't work out and that's a damn shame. I admire Novick's brains as well as his soul.
    
        If Sam gets tossed out I'd love to see Steve as Mayor of Portland. Guilty or not.
    
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    Steve,

    We can agree to disagree about the Triple AAA baseball stadium as long as you promise not to oppose it because "Merritt Paulson is Hank Paulsons Son".

    Curious - are you against the Lents stadium or against the overall deal period? Would you have supported the stadium at the Memorial Coliseum site? Do you support the MLS 2011 and PGE Park remodel?

    Cheers Jeremy

  • joel dan walls (unverified)
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    Bill McDonald--I for one don't think your anger with Randy Leonard over the screwball Lents stadium deal is misplaced....not one bit. It's just one more scam whereby the public's property is turned over to greedheads, all the while promising "job, jobs, jobs." What a crock of shit.

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    Randy - what about next Wednesday? I'll call you. TJ -- There are some people in bars around ballparks, but that hasn't changed the overall character of the neighborhood, even near Yankee Stadium. Here's a selection from a 1993 NYT article: "The house that Ruth built presides over the nation's poorest Congressional district, near block upon block of dilapidated buildings, teeming streets, bodegas and bars. Many fans scurry from the parking lots to the stadium and back again, fearful of crime." I confess I never ventured much into the neighborhood, but - would you disagree with the Times' assesment? Bill - I don't remember turning down an opportunity to be on your show, that was silly! Cora - of course we'll take you up on that! Thank you! *** As to the toll idea, I think that constitutionally interstate commerce is different from intrastate commerce. I found a Massachusetts case on an area with different tolls for residents of certain areas. It relies on Federal cases that seem pretty relevant. It upheld a system where "Currently, the toil for a non-commercial passenger vehicle that uses the Sumner or FedWilliams Tunnel js ordinarily $3.00, but is $2.50 when the vehicle is equipped with the standardFast Lane transponder, and only $0.40 for residents of Bast Boston, South Boston, or the NorthEnd in Boston.2 Similarly, the toll for a non-commercial passenger vehicle that uses the I obinMemorial Bridge is $2.50 when equipped with the standard Fast Lane transponder, but only$0.30 for residents of Charlestown and Chelsea, Massachusetts ..." u

  • Gary Marschke (unverified)
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    Regarding the Lents stadium - or anything having to do with stadiums:

    PLEASE help me comprehend how this MLS-Baseball Stadium deal in any way pencils out for anyone but Merritt Paulson (whoever his father is). So far, it is my understanding that:

    • Taxpayers struggling to meet everyday obligations will be expected to bear the burden (potential or real) of millions of dollars in additional debt to re-develop a stadium for an MLS team when • MLS has a documented history of adding little if any appreciable economic benefit to any community and • The proposed average ticket price of $31 (not including parking or transportation, food, beverage, and souvenirs) is hardly "family friendly" and • The sustainable jobs created will be well below "family wage" and likely require continued supplements from additional taxpayer dollars and • The additional "requirement" that the re-developed park be for soccer-only mandates building of a new stadium for a minor league baseball team that has been fun to watch but marginally profitable at best and • Taxpayers (still) struggling to meet everyday obligations will be expected to bear the burden of even more millions of dollars in additional debt to develop a stadium for said minor league baseball team and • The development of said stadium would require one or more major change(s) to existing URA(s) resulting in other current and/or pending projects being put on hold if not eliminated altogether for the sake of a further taxpayer subsidized property that would provide little if any economic benefit, no affordable housing, and even more below family-wage jobs and • The subsequent average ticket prices (also not including parking or transportation, food, beverage, and souvenirs) to enter the new stadium to see a minor league team would likely be even more prohibitive that the "major league" soccer team and • The siting of said stadium will require thousands if not millions in additional study (taxpayer?) dollars and • The location of said stadium will require additional millions in modification and/or (re)development of infrastructure including parking, transportation, utilities, and relocation and • There has been no meaningful public engagement around this issue much less the thoughtful presentation and careful consideration of a comprehensive and sustainable plan to finance, develop, market, and maintain these two new behemoths.

    As a business person, community organizer, and engaged citizen; I just don't see it. I plead with you to provide me with some semblance of rationale that might convince me that this deal is anything but a bad one for Portland.

  • Dan Newth (unverified)
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    Hi Steve

    If you want to help Lents, how about grilling the Lents Town Center Urban Renewal Advisory Committee with tough questions about the economics of this stadium?

  • Grant Schott (unverified)
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    I think most of us feel as Steve does attimes. In politics, there is always a legitimate fear of offending someone, be it the voters, your employer, your funders, etc... Unfortunately, some people can't disagree without being disagreeable and are grossly offended if someone, even their friend/ally, disagrees with them. It's often easier to argue with members of the opposing party.

    To use a personal example, when working for State Representative Barbara Ross of Corvallis in 2000, I worked hard to help elect Kelley Wirth her successor. During the '01 session, Kelley was one of many the co-sponsors of a bill to spend something like $200 million to bring a Major League baseball team to PDX. Some of the leasding lobbyists like Dave Barrow were working the bill. I knew right away that Kelley's position was contrary to that of Corvallis, where voters actually support education and other services and will actually support revenue for them, but probably not for a losing baseball team (I think the Montreal Expos was the target.)

    I typed up a petition opposing the bill and circulated it at a Democratic event, where 60 activists, including elected officials, signed on. I gave copies of the petition to the five Linn/Benton lawmakers. Kelley wasn't at her office when I dropped it of, but, when I saw her at an event the following week, she jabbed her finger at me and snarled "Don't talk to me about baseball!" Still, as I recall, Kelley was perhaps the only co-sponsor to vote against the original version of that bill. I had no regrets in taking a legitimate public policy position even though it offended a legislator. Legislators are elected to listen to their constituents, right?

    Steve sets a great example by taking clear public stands on the issues while trying to maintain his friendships with those who might disagree with him. It's not always easy, but it's the honorable M.O. for any genuine public servant.

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