Rep Greg Matthews: Having the Guard's back

T.A. Barnhart

Earlier this month, I spoke by phone with Rep Greg Matthews (HD 50, Gresham), who serves as Vice-chair of the Veterans and Emergency Services Committee. The 2009 Legislature has passed, and continues to work on, a variety of legislation regarding veterans' issues: ending unlawful employment practices, chemical exposure, educational benefits, and even making current benefits available to vets regardless of when they served (to make benefits available to Vietnam Era vets).

Rep Greg Matthews, HD 50 GreshamRep Matthews is a vet himself, a former Airborne MP who was part of the rescue of American medical students from Grenada. Following his three years in the Army, he served as a police officer in Gresham for nearly 11 years. Since then, he's been a member of the Gresham Fire Department, starting as an arson investigator and later a firefighter on the line. "Perhaps that's the best thing that could have happened. I just continued to serve the city." He quipped, "We're fighting fires in Salem, too, but at least back home I get protective equipment."

He was elected to the Legislature in 2008 to represent Gresham, the city where he was born and raised, replacing Republican John "Lt Gov" Lim as part of the blue wave that swept Oregon and the nation. He asked to serve on the Veterans committee, his appointment to which he calls "a real honor." Another honor he enjoyed, during the campaign, was having John Kroger, a Marine vet, walk with him. They were able to discuss issues as they met the people of Gresham on the doorstep, and, once the session started, they joined forces to develop legislation together.

"One of the things that deeply concerned me long before I came in here was the fact that we'll have a lot of veterans that leave their jobs now to go serve their country and, I was curious, looking for the mechanism that ensures their re-employment. And there really wasn't any kind of state enforcement tool. We've got a great group, the Employers Support for the Guard and Reserve group. I know a few of the folks are retired general and what-not on there. They do a great job in educating employers, but as I mentioned in the Floor speech, what we found out, it's not so much a problem of the private sector. It's more with some public employees sometimes. They come home and find they've been replaced, and now someone's got seniority.

"We wanted to make sure we could define this in Oregon law, so we could say, 'We appreciate your service, and when you come back, your job is waiting for you, and we'll make sure that happens'."

HB 3256 was one result of the Matthews-Kroger collaboration; it provides state standards for determining unlawful employment practices regarding Oregon service members. (Matthews pointed out that Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian played an integral role in the development of labor-related legislation such as HB 3256.) Most of the legislation the committee dealt with, however, was the result of the work done in 2008 by the Governor's Task Force on Veterans Services, which produced 39 initiatives on a range of veterans issues.

"I requested the Speaker assign me ... of any committee, I really wanted to be on the Veterans & Emergency Services Committee, and that is chaired by Jean Cowan. [I] ended up being vice-chair, that was a real honor. Of all the committees I'm on, what made that so productive was the work of the Task Force. They brought forward a recipe for success for the Legislature if we could just follow it and connect the dots, maintain as these bills went through our process in the House and across over to the Senate. The bills the Attorney General and I came up with were just kind of extras into the pile"

Matthews pointed out that Paul Evans, the Governors liaison on veteran and affairs, and the entire Dept of Veteran Affairs have been great partners with the committee and Legislature on these issues. "I cannot say enough good about the work that Paul Evans has done and the commitment he's made," said Matthews. Throughout the session, he and Evans meet every Tuesday to discuss progress on legislation and what was needed to keep things moving forward successfully.

"There's been a very strong group [the Task Force, Dept of Veterans' Affairs AG's office] that has never once wavered, they've come through and followed this thing through to the very end. Nobody's celebrating. We're looking forward to the next set of work we have to get done. We'll continue to work towards that.

"There's going to be a lot of good things for all vets of all conflicts, all services."

Along with HB 3256, other legislation Matthews noted in our talk:

HB 3480, dealing with exposure to chemical agents (apparently stuck in Ways & Means Subcommittee On Public Safety, according to the Legislature's website).

HB 3020 was signed into law by Gov Kulongoski on June 2nd. This regarded a situation that "bothered a lot of folks" said Matthews. Under HB 3020, if someone knows that a person is a vet, a disabled vet, or a military spouse, an unlawful trade practice conducted against them would be considered an "unconscionable tactic", subjecting the perpetrator to a higher level of punishment. HB 3020 provides a level of protection to vets and their families that has been missing.

"That is big: Our veterans are proud, and they should be ... often times they self-identify, whether it's through license plates on their vehicles or something in the home, something in their yard; this would put a protection in place that would make it" abuse of them a more serious criminal offense.

The assistance of Kroger's and Avakian's office in developing legislation was, Matthews said, "comforting for me [as a] first-term legislator. There's conflicts at every turn in this building it seems, but I never once saw a turf war over the veterans issues on how we're best going to protect our veterans. Everybody's come together to find a way to make it happen."

(I spoke with Tony Green, Director Communications for the AG's office about their involvement with veterans legislation. The AG, a former Marine, had two lawyers on his staff, both vets, who volunteered to work on these bills with Matthews: David Kramer and Paul Sundermeir. Green said AG Kroger understands first-hand what service to country means. He supports civil rights in general, and is determined to protect those of Oregon's veterans.)

Veterans issues are like firefighter issues, said the vet-turned-firefighter: "Firefighters have never really cared if you're a Democrat or Republican, if you're red or you're blue; it doesn't really matter. What matters is how you are on the issues that matter to them. Veterans are the same way."

With the Oregon National Guard due to ship to Kuwait by the end of the month for final training prior to their 10-month stint in Iraq (my older son, Alex, serves with Bravo Company, out of Corvallis), the state is already hard at work preparing for their return next year. Those on their first tour, said Matthews, won't realize how much better the reintegration process is than following past deployments. "For those who've already served and come back, what they should see is greater outreach [regarding] benefits. More of an educational component going out there, to say what the benefits are coming to them, how they access those benefits, getting them in direct touch with those."

Central to these efforts is the so-called "soft landing", an effort that requires federal assistance and is being worked on by the entire Oregon Congressional delegation, with Sen Ron Wyden taking the lead. [I contacted Wyden's office to try to arrange an interview on this, but they were not ready to speak about it just yet. Wyden's staff lead on this issue has assured me he'll contact me when the legislative process is ready to move forward; I'll report on that when I have the information.]

The current process for reintegration following a tour of duty is minimal, Matthews said.

"They basically land and are given a debrief, and in between them saying 'I'm ok' ... in between the debrief and [going home to] the families, is the fact that they have to say, 'Yeah, I'm doing ok and I don't need anything.' What we're trying to do is give them that extra time so the families can identify what the needs might be so these soldiers can as well, and the leadership has a chance to regroup and keep in touch with these soldiers. You're not going to be able to identify them so quickly within the first two days; you're going to need that 3-month period [of the soft landing]. Hopefully we can get that done."

Matthews expressed gratitude for the work of Oregon's members of Congress as partners in these matters. Every time the state has needed help at the federal or Congressional level, "there's been someone waiting in DC to pick the baton and we're handing it to them. That's pretty exciting, too." Often, he said, before Chair Jean Cowen let legislation pass from the committee to the floor, all necessary arrangements had been made with the Congressional delegation to ensure the bill would receive federal support or that national legislation would be proposed to support Oregon's efforts.

"I'm pretty proud of the way Oregon's treating its veterans. It's easy for me because I am a veteran. But you don't have to be a vet to support our veterans, to support our soldiers. Our troops ... you look at the six degrees of separation, everybody knows somebody impacted by this war or impacted by service. Everybody's concerned, whether you're deployed or not. They just want our military to be safe."

Despite the successes of the 2009 session regarding veterans issues, Matthews recognizes the work is far from finished. Once the session is over, there will be a debrief to review what got done and what remains to be done. He's still waiting to learn what's going to happen with HB 2571, which limits tuition for out-of-state students who are also vets; that bill has yet to pass the House. "We did get great support, the university system is helping us with that."

Matthews also spoke of two specialized classes of veterans, one which received some benefits from this Legislature and the other which will need to wait until 2010 or 2011 for specialized legislation. The first, Vietnam Era vets, have found themselves shut out of a number of benefits programs simply because of the passage of time. Matthews thinks that's wrong.

"I think we need to understand is that there is a generation of soldiers out there who came out of the Vietnam Era. Reintegration was not successful for them for a whole lot of reasons, having that 30-year moratorium in HJR 7, having that lifted by the voters, will allow them access to a home loan that they've never taken advantage of, never had that opportunity." [HJR 7 refers a constitutional amendment to voters that will allow Vietnam Era Vets to receive loans from Oregon War Veterans' Fund.]

He's also happy that the Legislature removed the 15-year limit for qualifying as a vet for Oregon civil service jobs (HB 2510): "Once a veteran, always a veteran. You can't put an age on that. We thought it was only right that you recognize their service forever, not for the 15-year period."

The class of vet which did not receive specific, and necessary, legislative attention is women soldiers. Matthews emphasized that the reason for this was not neglect but a desire to get the legislation right.

The issues that women soldiers face, he said, are different than what their male colleagues have to cope with. The problem is so large, the Veterans Task Force couldn't develop proper legislation. "It will be a priority of our commitment", he said, noting that the Task Force is still reviewing research in order to bring forward recommendations.

"Quite honestly, it was far too important to push something through that we hadn't researched enough. But it's also something that is going to be very demanding of [the Task Force's] time because it is that important of an issue."

For women soldiers, Matthews said, "Trauma is much different. You get a mortar round blast, the anatomy is such that they're suffering some serious trauma as a result of that." He also pointed out that matters of rape and sexual harassment need to be addressed. "We heard from some very brave soldiers who came forward, and these are women we certainly want to be there to support them."

Finally, I asked him about HB 2556 (Keep the Guard Home), but he was reluctant to give an opinion on whether its passage would have, as some on the right have argued, undermine the troops. He acknowledged the conflicts that exist even within the families of deployed Oregon soldiers, but his focus has been on supporting the troops. Because they were, he believed, going to be deployed regardless of any actions, his goal was to take care of them, especially when they return.

"I'll make it clear: [2556] has not been a conversation of the caucus, not a conversation of our committee. It's not that anyone's talking around it; it's just that it hasn't happened."

By the way, Senators Wyden and Merkley, if you plan to head to Iraq during the Guard's deployment (which I believe you will), Rep Matthews would like to join you. As would this Guard father/blogger. Just saying.

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  • backbeat (unverified)
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    Nice post Big wyden oped today, come over here to see a discussion

    ...crickets

    Wyden has been sucked in by The Village on healthcare, don't expect help on veteran's issues. Very disappointing times we're living in.

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    Thanks Rep Matthews.

    TA, are you saying that the public employers in Oregon are either unaware of the specific remployment requirements of USERRA; or are you and Rep Matthews saying that the public employers are aware of the requirements and unwilling (unlike the private sector) to abide by federal law?

  • Larry McD (unverified)
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    Whoa!

    Rep Matthews is a vet himself, a former Airborne MP who was part of the rescue of American medical students from Grenada."

    Of all the people I might have expected to parrot the Reagan administration's mis-characterization (to be kind) of their purely political invasion of that tiny island... you'd be near the end of the pack, T.A.

    As a Nam era vet, I know it's possible to serve honorably even as your Commander in Chief sends you into harm's way for less than honorable reasons, but please don't let your desire to praise Rep.Matthews lead you to help the Reagan Right perpetuate that propaganda.

  • t.a. barnhart (unverified)
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    Larry, i don't insult the people i'm interviewing by commenting on their personal history. i'm sorry my use of the word "rescue" stirred up such old memories. is "retrieved" bettered? fetched? schlepped? transported? facilitated the semi-voluntarily relocation?

    of all the material in this interview, that's what leads you to comment? personally, i think with several thousand Oregonians heading off to, and then back from, Iraq & Afghanistran, the vast improvement in post-service benefits and support might be a bit more important to vets like yourself who have had to deal with far less over the years.

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  • Larry McD (unverified)
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    "i don't insult the people i'm interviewing by commenting on their personal history"????

    In the absence of quotation marks or a direct attribution, the statement in question is yours. Rather than your amusing examples, a simple neutral statement would have sufficed quite nicely, eg. "the American action in Granada during President Reagan's administration."

    There is absolutely no evidence that American students needed rescue, schlepping, ferrying, transport, carpooling, or anything of the sort. Never has been and it's unlikely there ever will be.

    I am fierce in my anger at how veterans have been and are being treated... particularly by the Veterans Administration (the 2007 scandal at the Marion IL VA hospital, the current Miami VA hospital's colonoscopies nightmare,the June 21 NYT reports on a "rogue" cancer unit at the VA hospital in Philadelphia, etc.).

    I appreciate Rep. Mitchell's efforts just as I respect his service. However, the presence of such a blatant propaganda phrase so early in the piece makes me read some of the rest with a jaundiced eye.

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    My understanding, cannot remember who gave me this straight skinny, but it was a person with the bonafides, my understanding of Grenada was that the primary response on the part of the students was, "Whhhaaaa? Huh?"

    And the guy on his knees in the surf? Photo op[portunist].

  • rw (unverified)
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    I kinda have a question. How many folks work in the AG's office? How many of the higher seats are occupied by.... vets? I have a certain ambivalence to the seeming pride taken in loading a jobs docket with vets. It is not always the best and right thing to do. I recall when our economy was in active collapse in 2000, and the ONLY jobs I was coming across were Homeland Security. Even the low level admin positions were explicitly reserved for, you guessed it: militaries and ex-militaries of any kind.

    Rather skilled with key informant interviewing, I was able to winkle a straightforward admission that while the bulk of ALL jobs development going on at the time was strictly TSA and HSD, not one of these jobs was offered locally, nor available (except for the non-locally fillable TSA posts, later on) to non-militaries.

    That sure made me feel like supporting the war on terror and the M-I Complex. From the streets and a foodbox I should be happy for such freedoms. Me and my kid with me...

    So sometimes I feel a little ambivalent about the cheerful pride shown to name of just how many positions in a collapsing economy have been reserved for or hired on as vets... who feel it is their right and their reward for having served. Seeing as how the rest of us slackards are too limp and poor in character to go make "the ultimate sacrifice" too.

    Sigh. This is a great divide. I feel such gratitude for what they are doing, it IS evil out there and we provoked it too... now must deal with that we have invited as well as that which is simply always out there...

    Yet I scrambled mightily for survival and have experienced physical dangers and privations in my own lines of service right here in-country - jobs others turned away from and would not deign to sacrifice for either! And there is no honor or privilege accorded those who work THESE frontlines!

    We sure need an overhaul in our culture. It is senseless that those who serve in the ways I have should EVER be jealous of or doubting of the rewards of those who served as they did. Such turning of one class against the other signals success on the parts of those in the overclass who like it this way....

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    Larry

    direct your anger appropriately. Greg does not deserve it, nor do i.

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    This seems like overcompensation behavior, to distract from the fact that you're taking it up the butt from Obama on this issue. Be honest with yourself. If Cheney had ran and been elected, and the reality on the ground were not one iota different than it is, what would you be saying? It would be pretty different. And now you're going to send your kid to Iraq, while telling us that the Dems are delivering.

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    Posted by: Larry McD | Jun 21, 2009 1:06:26 PM

    Whoa!

    Rep Matthews is a vet himself, a former Airborne MP who was part of the rescue of American medical students from Grenada."

    Yeeeeehaaaaaaaawr! Ridin' the rationalization pony!

    Fact: Operation Urgent Fury (gaaaaaaaaag) was not sanctioned by the UN. NOW, how are you gonna duck the "hired killers" tag? Wonderful progressive blog. Cutting edge sentiment from...where have I heard that logic...oh, yeah, Ross Perot! That's kind of progressive...

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    Even the low level admin positions were explicitly reserved for, you guessed it: militaries and ex-militaries of any kind.

    Most jobs are reserved for made men and women. It's how a criminal organization works.

    Employers today want 1) someone that will not look better qualified to their boss, 2) someone that will kiss ass, 3) someone that will break the law, because they were ordered to, and 4) someone that will be one of the gang. You must admit that ex-military are eminently qualified.

    This 4th of July, I propose true progressive celebrate by staging mock home invasions, of the kind that our military carry out daily, around the world. Perhaps an Abu Graib fun house?

    Absurd? But progressives like T.A. celebrating by watching the military waste as much jet fuel as they can, and letting everyone else know just who is in charge, is completely normal. Probably best. I've heard there's an Al Quaeda plot to lace fireworks with drops of nitro, this year! Just goes to show 'ya. Spare the battery, spoil the works!

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    Woa, folks! Ignore the word "progressive" in the blog mission statement. This isn't about the military, reread the post! This is about an elected Rep took the time to speak to Blue Oregon. Be nice and get with the program!

    Face it. You never get what you vote for. Here's a guy that actually cares, and HE WILL TALK TO US. Do you know how grateful you should be? If the Queen says something to you, you don't judge the content, you appreciate the recognition!!!

    Get with it. Neither party holds the troops responsible for our policy. They make personal sacrifices to make sure we have troops when the administration, any administration, snaps its fingers. That is a luxury you should never take for granted. Our empire is built on it. You cannot have one if individuals question their orders. This is the 21st century. You will never see any US personal tried for war crimes, no matter what the behavior. That is codified in US law. The Senate approved the President's use of force to free them, should that ever happen, in 2003, even if it's The Hague. This is not WWII. Individual troops today have the same responsibility that a woman does to her man. Show up, shut up, and take it. Stay at home moms AND the troops have earned their perks! Shame, shame, shame, that you would deny them!

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    It is hard time now. But there are still many people are preparing for coming NFL seasons. They are ready to kiss their jerseys for their favorite teams.

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    Thank you Rep. Matthews for your service to the public in the past and in your current role. In addition to your support of vets, your votes in support of revenue will provide a lifeline for the vital services we citizens count on.

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    ATSM, that was ugly. That was not the sound of someone trying to deal with an internally troubling conundrum. That was a weak inside-out rant. Ugly. It makes me anxious to post my doubts b/c I know how they can be perceived, and I know that I could excite reactionary, vigorous anger based in a sense of entitlement on the part of those I speak of, and their supporters... and possibly never get the serious consideration of my questions and perplex. I stand in the middle of the muddle - neither not-supporting, nor blindly-supporting, but cannot seem to reach a reassuring monolithically unqualified ground to stand on here.

    I will say this: the stories of National Guards left without basic protective equipment while contractors were scarfing up OUR money in wads.... criminal. And I know militaries who counted the minutes to complete their duty so as to immediately go contractor once they retired. Payed many hundreds of thousands more to do what they did for maybe 50 -70K a year for the military. And I mean like the NEXT day turning it over. It's such a mess. We have to have militia. But I'm sickened by the politics and scheming that grows up around this fact. And feel personally endangered by it as a citizen who also must survive. This socioeconomic dynamic keeps us divided against one another.

  • rw (unverified)
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    ATSM, that was ugly. That was not the sound of someone trying to deal with an internally troubling conundrum. That was a weak inside-out rant. Ugly. It makes me anxious to post my doubts b/c I know how they can be perceived, and I know that I could excite reactionary, vigorous anger based in a sense of entitlement on the part of those I speak of, and their supporters... and possibly never get the serious consideration of my questions and perplex. I stand in the middle of the muddle - neither not-supporting, nor blindly-supporting, but cannot seem to reach a reassuring monolithically unqualified ground to stand on here.

    I will say this: the stories of National Guards left without basic protective equipment while contractors were scarfing up OUR money in wads.... criminal. And I know militaries who counted the minutes to complete their duty so as to immediately go contractor once they retired. Payed many hundreds of thousands more to do what they did for maybe 50 -70K a year for the military. And I mean like the NEXT day turning it over. It's such a mess. We have to have militia. But I'm sickened by the politics and scheming that grows up around this fact. And feel personally endangered by it as a citizen who also must survive. This socioeconomic dynamic keeps us divided against one another.

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    crickets

  • BOHICA (unverified)
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    "We're fools to make war on our brothers in arms" Dire Straights

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    Stay on topic, folks. This is not a venue for re-debating the Reagan administration's military actions or foreign policy.

  • rw (unverified)
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    So backbeat, say something then. Locusts.

  • Larry McD (unverified)
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    I need to add one note here, even if nobody reads it:

    That last T.A. post regarding my "anger" is a piece of fraudulent cr*p. "Greg doesn't deserve it...".

    While I said nothing about T.A. personally, I made it clear that I appreciate and respect Rep. Matthews' work on these veteran's issues. My anger, and it is fierce, is directed toward the institutional mistreatment of all vets including National Guards members whose deployment in this war I believe to have been criminal.

    I will, however, add that after T.A.'s post I am angry at him and he damned well asked for it and deserves it.

  • rw (unverified)
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    Take a breath. Larry, misunderstandings between compatriots should be allowed to pass quickly. So: are you here for your ego to be stroked, or to seek understanding? So TA misunderstood you. Assume the best. You are both supposedly on the same team.

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    Larry, when you start by accusing someone of parroting Reagan-era rhetoric, you've done a pretty good job of screwing the dialogue pooch. personally, i take that kind of charge personally. if you didn't mean to be personal, don't write personal things (and then forget you did so).

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    TA, my bet he was typing under the influence of "hot under the collar and ready to act the bad". There is a kind of delerium therein, am sure you can remember from your novice blogging days, eh.

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