The Secret Veto

Jeff Alworth

It wasn't exactly the dead of night, but it might as well have been.  This morning, Bush handed out a veto on the bipartisan S-CHIP children's health care bill.  Unlike previous vetoes, he did it behind closed doors, away from cameras and microphones--the political equivalent of releasing a movie without pre-screening it for critics.  Bush may not have been ashamed by it--you could call him shameless--but the symbolism, particularly on a day following Chuck Grassley's announced support of the Wyden health care plan, was obvious. 

The Republican Party is now divided by those who would rather hide in a Cheney-like bunker to protect corporate profits and those who will come out into the light, face reality, join Democrats, and offer real change.  It will be interesting to watch them pick sides.

  • Oregon Bill (unverified)
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    I think Republican Greg Walden was the only member of the Oregon House delegation to actually vote against healthcare coverage for children. But apparently he'll have NO trouble voting for $190 billion for Blackwater and other military operations in Iraq.

    Talk about screwed up priorities - how can you folks in Hood River, Medford and Bend keep voting for this guy?

  • jeffk (unverified)
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    Why do Bush and Walden hate America's children?

  • Oregon Bill (unverified)
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    Why do Bush and Walden hate America's children?

    Because they spent all your tax dollars on Blackwater, Halliburton and Iraq, Inc.

    Plus, they don't hate ALL America's children. They like the super rich ones.

  • Oregon Bill (unverified)
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    Here's Greg Walden's contact information.

    He already voted against this legislation once, but he gets a second chance.

    Ask him if he'll vote to uphold the President's veto of healthcare insurance for children, and if so, why? Ask why he'll support billions for a failed, disastrous war in Iraq, and for the brutal mercenaries we've hired to carry it out, but vote against spending far fewer public dollars to protect our kids?

    Washington, DC Office: Main: 202-225-6730

    Medford, OR Office: Main: 541-776-4646 Tollfree: 800-533-3303

    Bend, OR Office: Main: 541-389-4408

  • RonM (unverified)
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    It is amazing how he is re-elected. I think part of it is the lack of coverage in this district on his voting record. He has a massive campaign fund derived from his votes in congress. He is the worse representative I have seen. We need to have someone step up and challenge him.

  • Randy2 (unverified)
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    I think the votes on this (by Walden and other Rs) can come back to severely bite them. Most folks seem to have given up on Rs doing anything to change the war course and by the time of the next general election anti-war fatigue may insulate them from voter reactions.

    But turning your back on our children while sending billions to Blackwater, Halliburton, et al because it's "too expensive"?

    I wouldn't want to have to continually explain THAT set of priorities to constituents.

    Randy2

  • Portland Dem (unverified)
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    “Unfortunately, I believe that some have given the president bad advice on this matter,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah. He said supporting the health bill “is the morally right thing to do,” and that he hoped Mr. Bush’s veto could be overridden.

  • Kurt Chapman (unverified)
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    Why do democrats in the House and Senate hate America's children? Why would they take an otherwise poular program that has wide bi-partisan support and deliberately create a political beach ball out of it? Cynically pumping up the size of the program daring a veto?

    Who is more addicted here? Smokers or Big Government that taxes tobacco cultivation, production, sales and consumption?

  • dartagnan (unverified)
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    "how can you folks in Hood River, Medford and Bend keep voting for [Walden]?"

    A lot of us don't. But unfortunately the 2nd Congressional District is dominated by people for whom Republicanism is virtually a religion. They'll vote for anybody with an R after his name. It doesn't matter how egregious his policy positions are; they couldn't care less.

  • Oregon Bill (unverified)
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    "how can you folks in Hood River, Medford and Bend keep voting for [Walden]?"

    A lot of us don't.

    Not enough of you.

    But unfortunately the 2nd Congressional District is dominated by people for whom Republicanism is virtually a religion.

    Talk to these people! And call Walden. My legislators aren't the problem (at least on this one).

  • Bob Tiernan (unverified)
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    The secret veto? So, Jeff, how did you find out about it? I mean, we all knew he was going to do it (yea!), and it was in the news right afterwards.

    You have a strange way of creating an issue.

    Bob Tiernan

  • Bob Tiernan (unverified)
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    Jeff K:

    Why do Bush and Walden hate America's children?

    Bob T:

    Oh jeez, here we go again. Can progressives (so-called) do better than this sort of pondscum rhetoric? I mean, when you guys say something that's true some day you'll need to wonder if anyone else is listening any longer.

    Do you really believe that Bush hates America's children? Do you really believe that?

    Bob Tiernan

  • Robert Harris (unverified)
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    I don't think Bush hates "childrens".

    But I don't think he vetoed the bill because he fears that a few middle income families may get their kids covered by gov't subsidized health care. If that were the case, why would he have proposed the huge medical care subsidy to our seniors through the prescription drug coverage, or the continued subsidization of even the wealthiest seniors medicate part B premiums (well other than the fact that seniors vote and "childrens" don't)

    No, his real fears are 1)If SCHIP is expanded to some of the middle class, we'll realize that a single payer system is the cheapest, most effective way to constrain costs and cover everyone.and 2) It would destroy his universe to discover, or even think that, there are some things that as a society, are better administered through government.

    Perhaps this is a fight worth fighting without compromise. It may be the type of cultural change argument and discussion we need in this country.

  • Ron Buel (unverified)
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    Greg Walden makes a great case for Phil Keisling's Open Primary plan. Someone could run against Walden from the left, but within the Republican Party. Democrats in the District would have a chance to hold their Congressman accountable with votes for someone who would actually represent them, except when organizing the Congress.

  • Zarathustra (unverified)
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    Is this really a shock, or just publicizing it for the Dems?

    If not, what, exactly, could he do to shock? Isn't it obvious he'll do any right wing thing he can get away with?

    This is irritating like a girlfriend that keeps calling about her jerk boyfriend. You listen the first time and conclude, yeah, he's a jerk. Then she keeps calling with, "You can't belive what he's done..." No, I can. He's a jerk. It's been established.

    I've always attributed this to the woman not wanting to believe her own conclusions. Do you doubt that Shrub's a right wing jerk? Then what's the point? This seems like just another, "You're not going to believe what he's done now..."

  • Tom Civiletti (unverified)
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    Bob Tiernan has a point. Shrub doesn't hate American children. He just doesn't give a damn about them.

  • Andy (unverified)
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    I don't think anyone involved cares much about kids. The Dems knew this would get vetoed and they didn't try to fix it, they just proceeded forward. So the whole thing is a sham process that is designed only to stir up some press.

    One thing that shows how stupid SCHIP is that under the new bill, some families would actually be taxed at the AMT level and still be elgible for SCHIP. How about that, they are poor enough to get SCHIP and rich enough to have to pay the AMT! That shows you right there that the Dems are so stupid they can't figure out what their agenda is. Tax everyone or provide tax handouts to everyone? Duh, lets just do both. The morons deserve everything to be vetoed if they can't think clearer than that.

  • da big one (unverified)
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    Since when is a 25 year old adult considered a child and a family with an income of over 70,000 annually considered poor?

    <h2>For the children my arse...</h2>

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