Lars Larson on Rick Dancer
Rick Dancer, the first GOP statewide candidate (for Secretary of State), appeared on the Lars Larson show recently -- and Lars isn't happy:
Rick Dancer is a former T.V. anchor in the Eugene area. I consider him my friend, so it was a pleasure to welcome him on the program yesterday (Feb. 25) to talk to him about running for Secretary of State. Heck, I was glad that anybody from the Republican Party was running for one of these statewide offices.So far we have three offices wide open, Secretary of State, Attorney General, and State Treasurer, and only one Republican running in one of the races. That’s a big disappointment.
But, I was further disappointed when I put Rick on the air. My first question to him, “Should we insist that everybody who registers to vote have to prove that they are an American citizen first?” Rick answered by saying, “Well, isn’t that already the law? Don’t we already have to do that?” To which I sadly had to say, “No, Rick, we don’t and it is going to be one of the bigger issues you have to confront.”
We’ll invite Rick back in another week or so and see if he performs better the second time around. Let’s hope that he does.
Not a good start for Dancer. Discuss.
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Posted by: Maude | Mar 5, 2008 4:53:54 PM
Are you focusing on the fact that illegal aliens can vote in Oregon, and thinking that fact will help Democrats? I think that most Oregonians are against giving them the vote.
The fact that current Democrats in office caudal the illegal aliens will work to Dancer's advantage, not his disadvantage. It is an issue that Dancer can take advantage of against his Democrat opponent.
Posted by: Tom Civiletti | Mar 5, 2008 5:07:14 PM
Being a commercial TV local news anchor would likely drive a highly intelligent person stark raving mad.
Posted by: JHL | Mar 5, 2008 5:07:14 PM
Are you focusing on the fact that illegal aliens can vote in Oregon, and thinking that fact will help Democrats?
Umm... no. How did you get that?
Maude, I don't think there's any chance of Dancer will take advantage of something that, apparently, he hasn't even heard about.
The point of this thread is that although you and I probably strongly disagree on the issues, you seem to have more of a grasp of issues affecting the Secretary of State's Office than Mr. Dancer does!
Posted by: Pedro | Mar 5, 2008 5:29:17 PM
Old Lars is not really the brightest bulb in the chandelier either. I wonder why he isn't getting his paper work turned in to Bradbury's office to contest one of these open offices?
It has been proven over and over again that the false issue our elephant friends call "voter fraud" which includes "illegal aliens" registering to vote just plain doesn't occur except extremely small numbers.
Apparently Rick Dancer hasn't been brought up to speed on how to be a good racist yet. Lars is sure to show him the ropes.
Posted by: Hart Williams | Mar 5, 2008 6:57:21 PM
Can we finally call the "illegal immigrant" meme (and the bogus claim that Democrats are "caudle"-ing them -- i.e. "coddling" -- by its true name?
It's racism, pure and simple.
The whole meme has always been about "Mexicans" (NOT, significantly, Canadians) and that's the whole core of this election: crypto-racism. (With, I note, a dash of homophobia in another 'God-hates-fags' Fred Phelps-style initiative).
It's OK for GOP-ers to hate them brown-skinned "illegals" what am stealin' alla their hard-earned tax dullards: It's MINE! It's MY money! MINE! MINE! MINE!
(Good Christians that they are -- or claim to be.)
And so, Lars can wear his virtual Klan sheet and the GOP can pretend they're not screaming about racism, pure and simple. It's Trent Lott letting slip his love for Strom Thurmond's Segregationist Party presidential run in '48; it's screaming that EVERYONE must obey the law, when we're in a war that is a WAR CRIME according to our own formulation (Nuremberg Trials), we're torturing in violation of the Geneva Accords (which we sponsored in its latest form); we're consciously abrogating (and they are DEFENDING) the violation of the fourth, fifth and other amendments, engaged in illegal wiretapping, rendition, etc. etc. etc.
And the "illegals" are breaking the law?
The sheer hypocrisy of the self-righteous collaborators, these aiders-and-abetters of lawlessness and murderous criminality is staggering. Gargantuan. Were it assigned a numerical measurement, the number would exceed a googleplex.
But, of course, they're for the "Rule of Law" over a "crime" (illegal voter registration) that virtually NEVER happens, and has NEVER affected a single election in the history of the state of Oregon.
Period.
And, so, with all due respect, might I suggest:
Shut your cakeholes, you racist b*stards.
Burn your crosses on some other state's front lawn. We don't need your kind here in Oregon.
Right, Lars?
Posted by: Kari Chisholm | Mar 5, 2008 8:24:14 PM
I wonder why he isn't getting his paper work turned in to Bradbury's office to contest one of these open offices?
Simple. Because if Lars Larson was going to run for office, he'd be turning paperwork into Sam Reed's office, not Bill Bradbury's.
Posted by: JHL | Mar 5, 2008 8:47:42 PM
Good point, Kari! :) I wonder if Lars files taxes for income earned in Oregon...
Though, he could always run for Congress in Oregon.
Posted by: Kevin | Mar 5, 2008 9:01:50 PM
Hart - ROFL!!
Yeah, I'd say you're spot on. Rick is a pretty boy and all the girls are supposed to swoon when he glances their way.
Of course this is the same political party that gave us the Frat Boy in Chief. The GOP's contempt for the American people seems to grow with every passing year.
Posted by: LT | Mar 5, 2008 9:15:49 PM
What I would like to know is whether someone in a local office somewhere might not recognize Al Gonzales (most famous Republican of Hispanic origin I can think of) and ask "do you have the right to be in this country?".
Somehow I don't think those folks would talk about "coddling" folks who overstayed visas from Europe or Asia.
Posted by: Kari Chisholm | Mar 5, 2008 9:27:08 PM
JHL... No, he couldn't run for Congress here. You have to be a resident of the state (but not the district.)
Posted by: Molly | Mar 5, 2008 10:21:03 PM
"And the "illegals" are breaking the law?"
That's why they are called "illegals".
Hart, do you have a Websters? Get a clue.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
il·le·gal /ɪˈligəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-lee-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.
–noun 3. Informal. illegal alien.
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Posted by: Val | Mar 5, 2008 10:46:15 PM
Molly,
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
cau·dle – noun a warm drink for the sick, as of wine or ale mixed with eggs, bread, sugar, spices, etc.
cod·dle – verb (used with object), -dled, -dling.
1. to treat tenderly; nurse or tend indulgently; pamper: to coddle children when they're sick.
2. to cook (eggs, fruit, etc.) in water that is just below the boiling point; cook gently.
Nice post Hart.
Posted by: Hart Williams | Mar 5, 2008 11:57:43 PM
I guess some only see the "illegal" stuff that they want to see.
Just as some only read the words in the dictionary that they want to read.
That's a deadly dangerous sort of myopia -- especially when, confronted with a legitimate accusation of racism, one COMPLETELY ignores it and its unpleasant implications.
But, as John Adams said: "Facts are stubborn things." You can't be upset about a mote of lawbreaking when the plank of lawlessness entirely passes you by. The dictionary word for that ocular condition is "hypocrisy."
"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue." (La Rochefoucauld).
Thanks, Val, et al.
Posted by: Pat Ryan | Mar 6, 2008 9:56:35 AM
Yep Hart, facts are stubborn things.
When one calls people who enter this country illegally illegal it's a hell of a lot more accurate and intellectually honest than calling them undocumeted workers as if thye'd accidentally misplaced their wallets somewhere along the way.
It's also hugely dishonest to label every person who understands this to be a Fact as racist.
This is the same trick that the Neo-Cons use in branding anyone who disagrees with the Likud Party as anti-semetic.
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Some of us are able to understand simultaneously that this recent wave of illegal immigration is driven largely by our own failed trade policies, while understanding that their presence also serves to enable the corporatists who designed the system, to keep our own blue collar wages depressed.
Talk about Deadly Myopia, I'd say that your unwarranted attacks on logic are pretty damned dangerous too.
Posted by: Marc Abrams | Mar 6, 2008 11:14:26 AM
Just a bit on the "illegals" comment. Persons in this country without proper papers are NOT in violation of a criminal law, but a civil regulation. Accordingly, we should not even use the other side's term "illegal." The proper, accurate term is "undocumented." But that takes the edge of the Republican hyteria on the subject.
Posted by: Pat Ryan | Mar 6, 2008 3:04:25 PM
Fair enough Marc.
Henceforth I will refere to myself, and demand that others refer to me as unhaired, because to use more accurate terminology would be playing into the hands of......er....people that believe that honest terminology is essential to useful debate.
Regardless of what I call myself, I think you'll agree that I'll still be as bald as a cueball.
Posted by: Kari Chisholm | Mar 6, 2008 3:30:03 PM
Persons in this country without proper papers are NOT in violation of a criminal law, but a civil regulation.
Really?! That's fascinating. Marc, could you cite a source?
Posted by: Ethan S. | Mar 6, 2008 3:40:41 PM
"Lars can wear his virtual Klan sheet and the GOP can pretend they're not screaming about racism, pure and simple. It's Trent Lott letting slip his love for Strom Thurmond's Segregationist Party presidential run in '48;" -Hart
For a response to the above nonsense see this website.
http://www.wayneperryman.com/
Posted by: Pedro | Mar 6, 2008 5:09:20 PM
Thanks for the correction Kari. I had forgotten Lars was a resident of Washington.
The fact is even if he did still live in Oregon, he wouldn't put his career where his lying mouth is to run for office because he knows he wouldn't win.
Posted by: Hart Williams | Mar 7, 2008 5:19:53 AM
For a response to the above nonsense see this website. http://www.wayneperryman.com/
Well, first, I'm not a Democrat anymore, second, the parties SWITCHED sides, in case you hadn't noticed, and Perryman's cited site is a non-sequitur in this argument.
What the 19th Century Democratic party has to do with the 21st Century GOP's invocation of anti "Mexican" racist memes is termed, classically the "argumentum non sequiturum." (It does not follow.)
Might I compliment Ethan on his dismissive ad hominem tone, which generally indicates one is losing the argument on logical grounds.
Or, try this, I don't see anyone screaming about building a hundreds-of-miles-long fence on the Canadian border.
The "illegal alien" argument is racist "code," as was my ANALOGY (look it up) about Trent Lott's "code" about Strom Thurmond, whom, I note, switched from Dixiecrat/Democrat to Republican, as did Jesse Helms, as did the "Council of Conservative Citizens" change to the CCC from the KKK. The CCC that Lott got in trouble for speaking to, BTW.
Barry Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, remember.
If you want to talk dismissively about the history of American racism, pick someone other than a member of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, and g-g-grandson Underground Railroad Quakers on both side of his family tree. Call it an anti-ad-hominem, if you will.
Thanks.
Posted by: Jason Bradley | Mar 7, 2008 10:11:58 AM
Let’s just get out there and say Dancer is not the sharpest dancer on the floor (bad I know), but what we don’t need is, again lars trying to influence politics here in Oregon just like that weirdo from Nevada Loren Parks with out actually living in our state. But lars sure attempts to give that impression he does. The Oregon GOP is very desperate to fill some positions so much so that they are and will garnish help from out of stators, I’m sure the dems do the same but not to the degree or frequency of the GOP. Rick should ask lars on the air, can I count on your vote?
Posted by: anchor man | Mar 8, 2008 12:48:48 PM
Lars Larson interviewing Rick Dancer....it sounds like something out of Hollywood, what with the catchy names all chockablock with alliteration...Rick Dancer - Hold Me Closer, and Lars Larson - straight out of the red-necked northwoods. Both these guys careers in the media tanked. Larson ends up on a fourth-rated indy in Portland (KPTV) and Dancer on KEZI, an ABC (always been crappy) affiliate in Eugene.
These two made what names they have by working in Television news, a business best described by Hunter S. Thompson when he said: "The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason."
Unfortunately, neither Larson or Dancer fit the Thompson reference to "good men."
Larson and Dancer were two of the longest and worst offenders in Thompson's trench and they struyyed down that long plastic hallway until they were unceremoniously drummed out - most likely for beeing too old and too gawky-looking to sit in front of the Hi-Def cameras.
Americans want their anchor men to be manly, with just a touch of gray. Larson, whose sonorous voice suits him fine for AM radio, didn't fit the small screen well, and Dancer was rapidly fading into the oblivion of the Black Hole kown as Eugene television. His bling was fading fast in the 132nd TV market.
In the end, they show their true colors, and blow the lid off the conventional wisdom that television news people are all liberals. They are not Reporters. To refer to either as a true news reporter is an insult to the profession.
Larson and Dancer are mirror images of the reactionary families and the staid corporations who own and operate television and radio stations across the nation.
Now, no longer content with curing Eugene of it's unending insomnia and Duck fever by lulling listeners with his announcing voice, Dancer wants to destroy the Secetary of State function and take what is a noble institution into the political arena where he can dance on it's grave. Do not be fooled by his dashing appearance and his FM Djay voice - Dancer, like Larson, is just another massive ego who requires more exposure than just one TV transmitter can offer.
Vote for anyone but Dancer and write vitriolic letters of complaint to the FCC and to anyone who sponsors Larson's radio show. He is another insult to intelligence and should b back in small market TV where he had rsien to his level of incompetence.
Posted by: Jackson Jones | Mar 8, 2008 1:01:29 PM
Anchor man is righteous. Lars Larson is one messed up dude. He sounds like a guy walking round with a stick up his...! And Dancer - man! the dude ain't got nothing going on. These two dudes ought to be slammed up for the trash they talk on the tv and the radio, you know what I'm sayin?
When I think out Dancer as Secy. of State, I think of George Wallace. This dude was trying to be the governor of Alabama, dig. He said: "...if I didn’t have what it took to treat a man fair, regardless of his color, then I don’t have what it takes to be the governor of your great state." George Wallace - the dude ended up drooling in a wheel chair, man.
Don't get me wrong. Dancer's just a pretty face on the tube, in the ALL-LILLY WHITE Eugene. What does he know about what the rest of the brothers and sisters in Orygun need? Nothin. Vote for anyone but keep Dancer off your card.
Posted by: Pat Madigan | Mar 8, 2008 1:09:47 PM
Anchor Man and Jackson Jones are way out of line. I've known Lars Larson and Rick Dancer, in the biblical sense, for many years. Even though they are rather prudish in their on-air demeanor, they are, after all, siply men with needs. I was always happy to help them meet those urges.
During all those years when I was on my back, doing my job, tryig to stroke their creative mien, I thought to myself, someday I might just write a book about my experiences as a concuubine for the media darlings.
But then, I rethought my thoughts, thinking that perhaps I might be sued for libel or slander. But then i remembered I had photographs and voice recordings. What with today's technology, I could sell these items to the highest bidder and retire.
But then, rethought my thoughts and decided it wouldn't be fair to the two gentlemen. After all, they are just weak minded creatures with carnal lust as their driving force. be kind
Posted by: Steve Smith | Mar 14, 2008 9:27:52 PM
I don't personally know Lars Larson, but I have been sickened by listening to his ugly absurdities on air. I do, however, know Rick Dancer, and know him to be a very intelligent, caring and involved citizen and human being. I would not normally even consider voting for a Republican, especially in these very politically divisive and critical times, mostly because I really believe we are in an era that could just as easily slip into some sort of overt neo-Fascism as not. But I will vote for Rick, because I know that he would not abide being part of that sort of political drift, and because he has been MUCH more than a "pretty face" on t.v. He has sought out underrepresented voices, championed the oppressed, learned a massive amount about civic affairs and civil interactions while he has been a public media figure. And, while I am suspicious of people who use religion as a pandering tool, in all my interactions with Mr. Dancer, he has never even referred to his religious beliefs unless asked, upon which inquiry he responds honestly, without equivocation and with modesty and moderacy.
I hope anyone who is tempted to believe some of the nasty and unwarranted things that are being said and will be said about Rick Dancer in the course of this campaign will take it upon themselves to find out the truth (or at least go searching for it) rather than take the word of people who are simply name-calling.
Rick would be a great addition to our slate of elected officials helping to administer the Oregon ship of state.
Posted by: lowell | Jul 12, 2008 3:38:29 AM
Rick Dancer interviewed a school bus driver and received an award from his colleagues. The school bus driver story was a hoax. Mr. Dancer has refused to release a copy of the interview. Obviously Rick Dancer cares more for the award than the truth.
http://scint-stinks.com
Posted by: Patriot | Aug 22, 2008 8:11:42 PM
You guys are all funny. I dont even know why im posting in here, cuz your all over the map. But lets just suffice to say, that Lars cant win an election because he is stupid, Illegal is illegal and screw the PC, and oh yeh, RIck Dancer is going to win, and has a chance at winning because people are sick of politics.
Go to his site, honestly, read what he is saying. www.rickdancer.com he keeps a blog on thre where you can ask him questions. He is doing great. He has more money than any state wide candidate except smith, from any party. And a poll just came out where it is a tie between him and Kate Brown. He was leading in every CD but her's and his message resounded with 60% of the voters compared to hers which was 32% He knows what he is talking about.
Posted by: RW | Aug 22, 2008 8:28:41 PM
Maude, the word is "coddle". Unless you really did mean to reference 1. a warm drink for sick people; 2. a brass cauldron for warming such?
It is dangerous to use spellcheck if you are not sure how to spell the words you are using.
And as for Dancer's non-answer - I think he was simply begging the question to avoid stepping in a steaming pile of it. The next move would have been to engage his disingenuous response, for pity's sake. Where is Oriana Fallaci when we need her?
Posted by: Mark | Sep 21, 2008 5:14:39 PM
I presume that Mr. Dancer simply believed that the check box on the voter registration form, AFFIRMING THAT THE REGISTRANT IS A US CITIZEN, meant what it plainly says. If so, any person checking the box with full knowledge that they are not a US citizen would be committing fraud. That is what has prevented my wife (a legal resident alien) from registering - a sense of fair play, following the rules whether you agree with them or not.
Whatever one's personal opinions about the subject, the extremely unethical way that the petitions challenging HB 2007 & SB 2 were handled by the political aristocracy is criminal. I will vote for Rick Dancer in the belief that he will make the Secretary of State accountable to the people of Oregon, not the political elite.
Posted by: mat | Oct 16, 2008 12:14:44 AM
NO OFFENSE, BUT IF YOU ASK ME THAT QUESTION IS A LITTLE STUPID. WHO HONESTLY KNOWS MUCH ABOUT THAT ISSUE, AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? COME ON... LETS TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER NOT THE SMALL POPULATION OF CANADIANS THAT MIGHT TRY TO VOTE ILLEGALLY...
Posted by: Kacey | Oct 19, 2008 2:15:29 PM
I would like to say that Hart, you are insane. There is no way that you can convince me that everyone who opposes the enormous flow of "illegal immigrants" into the US are racists. Having worked for government for a number of years, I know what impact it truly has on our economy. I don't care what Nationality you’re talking about. Mexican, Canadian, Russian, etc. It makes no difference. The fact is that our Country has a huge number of illegals living in it, some of who are very much criminals.
Those who are criminals clog up our judicial system and keep our jails and prisons over populated. The money we spend to give them food, clothing, education, etc. is absurd. That should go to our own needy citizens who are here legally. There are others, who may not be criminals, who are resorting to identity theft so that they can work in this Country. Would you be okay with 15 different illegals sharing your Social Security number with you so that they can find work? I'm not okay with that. Most people aren’t. Look at the statistics some time. It will blow your mind. You may even have someone using yours right now and you don’t even know it.
I call them illegals because they are. Read a little bit before you speak. They are not in this Country legally, period. If they want to be in this Country legally, then they can go through the process just the same as any other immigrant. If they don't want to do that, then they can stay where they are. That doesn't make me a racist, that makes me a realist.
I also believe that we should teach our children in one language, unless they are taking a specific language class. If a person wants to be a citizen, then they should learn the language. I know I can’t go to Germany and expect their schools to hold a special class for me that is taught in English just so I don’t have to learn their language. It’s ridiculous to even argue about that.
I don't think that people who are not citizens should be allowed to benefit from the State or Federal system. I don't think they should be allowed to benefit from our school systems and they should not be allowed to have a say in what goes on in this Country. If they want to benefit from anything, or if they want to have a voice, they can go through the process. It's not like I can go to Mexico, Canada, or any other Country and voice my opinion about how their government works, nor can I obtain any benefit that their country may offer to their citizens. Why should we be any different?
Go to Mexico sometime and talk to a cop. Tell him that you have the right to speak your mind and tell him that he is a racist for not allowing you to do so. See what happens.
As I said, I have worked in government for a number of years. As a White male, I can't even count how many times I have dealt with someone of another race who has referred to me as a racist. These are cases where the topic of race was never mentioned. These are people who have accused me of enslaving their people or stealing their land. People who resort to racist remarks simply because I am White. Is that not racism? Not if you ask those people. In their minds, they can't be racist because they are not white. In their opinion, White people are the only people who can be racist and for me to comment on that, well that's considered to be racist. People like you are what's wrong with this Country. You and the crooked politicians.
The way things are here are very opposite of what they should be. We are suffering in this state because of corrupt and selfish politicians, along with many other things and the issue of illegals is one of those things. Facts are facts. Sorry...
Posted by: RW | Oct 19, 2008 7:14:24 PM
Marc - good observation. I watched pundits and newsreaders wobble back and forth between "rescue package" and "bailout" and sometimes even wobble while saying the one instead of the other.
Language choice: all-important. I prefer to use it strategically so as to magnify or dampen a dynamic as opposed to some prim little effort at correctitude.
I find it an odd thought that anyone undocumented would be suspected of going to the polls -- would that not be the heighth of bravura, duende that could put them on a bus or plane headed back?
The goal is to stay low and stay off the radar in that situation, and these folks are in the powre of their employer.
I knew a hindi guy who was a very poor-performing health industry and sw engineering recruiter messing up my and other ppl's chances at jobs during that crash in 2000... his H-visa ran out, the employer "broke his promise" to renew [no wonder, lemme tell ya -- he and I made friends, but I never trusted him with another resume or oppornity again!] -- well, he jumped ship. He is still in this country, no green card, no nothing. After his hearing with an attorney, which he lost, he was to report to go home again.
Last I heard from him, four years later, he was working at different gas stations and just laying low. But still here, and apparently not wanted-enough to be found. This was the Chicago area. Lots of those stories in ag. in OK/AK areas.
So it is - folks lay very low, and I find it hard to believe folks in this situation would care enough to put their necks on the line for a vote in this election?
Course... maybe I knew the wrong undocumenteds!
Posted by: vixigoth | Nov 4, 2008 6:48:22 PM
Just a bit on the "illegals" comment. Persons in this country without proper papers are NOT in violation of a criminal law, but a civil regulation. Accordingly, we should not even use the other side's term "illegal." The proper, accurate term is "undocumented." But that takes the edge of the Republican hyteria on the subject.italic
good gravy, marc. so now you want us to believe, that just because something is written into the civil code of law rather than the criminal code, that makes it NOT a law? if it is UNLAWFUL, or against a law, whether civil or criminal, it is still ILLEGAL. And it may just BE a crime to come into this country undocumented. Meaning, without having submitted the proper paperwork, for a permit to enter.
In the case of "undocumented" workers, it also means that they are "unaccounted for", and unaccountable; the government has no record of their entry or presence here.
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Posted by: Hart Williams | Mar 5, 2008 4:28:33 PM
Er ... doesn't the fact that Dancer (who has been our local anchor here, and not exactly a National Merit Scholar, if you catch my drift) has decided to "out" himself as a Republican AND as a rat swimming TOWARDS a sinking ship pretty much say what needs be said about his political acumen?
Lars merely confirms it: Not the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree. I guess he's counting heavily on the "looks" vote.