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February 8, 2009 |
T.A. Barnhart | Comments (17 so far)
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Posted by: Zarathustra | Feb 8, 2009 2:52:10 PM
OK. You've got the apartment bugged. I took your post on cyclists and grinning drivers to be coincidence that it came up the day three of us were vehemently discussing having nearly been killed by a motorist that day. It happens a lot. But how do I write off to coincidence that this is the first thing I see today, after having been up to 3am with mates, arguing the point that the problem with the England XI (cricket) is that ball players today aren't like the ball players of yesteryear?
The stimulus was pretty much the same. Another revelation in a series that one doesn't think can get any worse. Test cricket is one of the few areas England continue to try to hold their end up in the game, so, being bowled out by a very average West Indies side for 50 and some odd runs led to much pondering what gives. You covered pretty much the same points, so I won't repeat. Funny too, you mention his injuries. I was saying that I thought that part of the diff was that, in the day, if you were injured, you didn't get paid. Another was your point about loving the game. I am constantly amazed today to find players that had a choice of sports and picked cricket due to purely career orientated reasons. Not faulting it, but it is a very different proposition than considering yourself lucky to be getting paid to do what you love most. So, we sat here eating beans and toast, drinking IPA and theorizing. Wasn't a plan; just happened to be what I had fixed. You can't underestimate the effect of seeing England go into day 4 of a Test where honors were pretty even, and not even finish out the day, losing by an innings and 25 runs. It was a nearly impossible feat of synchronized ineptitude.
It was a rehash discussion, though, that we had had only two weeks ago after Sri Lanka decimated Pakistan, though those were limited overs matches. The main protagonist in that one was the bowling equivalent of ARod, and we were saying that we'd had pretty much enough of his steroid show. It used to be that Paki cricketers were of the highest character. Imran Khan, a former test captain, the "lion of Pakistan", was a leading PM candidate and is a strong voice for progressives in Pakistan. Ramiz Raja, Wassim Akram, Waqar Younis...all sterling individuals. Then, there was a period of people that weren't quite as solid, character wise, followed by today's doping and betting scandals. In that case, the verdict was education. Pakistan went from a proper English public school education to less and less until there is practically nothing today. Few complaining about the madrasas mention that they arose in an absolute educational vacuum. Today the kids learn by watching European football owners and players. Whoever called footy the beautiful game must think colon polyps are positively gorgeous.
Amen, T.A. I say that we should fight the trend by supporting the less or nonprofessional forms of the game. Catch a Beav's game, umpire Saturdays at the sandlot, or whatever. Too many people only watch if they think they're seeing the highest echelons, which only drives competition bidding. If you truly love a sport, all that is required is that the setting be OK and the teams be playing to win, in the best spirit of the game.
Not a fan of black pudding or spotted dick, I take it...but that's a bit more Irish breakfast. Oh, I also have it on first-hand account that your take on BB is accurate. A former secretary of mine came to our firm directly from the A's, and was not exactly a fan of his.
Posted by: Harry Kershner | Feb 8, 2009 4:14:59 PM
The greatest offensive player of my lifetime was Ted Williams, whose on-base percentage was better than Bonds', and whose batting average was far better. I agree that Mays was the best all-around.
I must add, however, that I think Bonds (who is indeed an asshole) has gotten a raw deal. Modern players have benefited from advances in training methods and equipment, diet, "legal" dietary supplements, home run-oriented ballparks, video-playback, etc. Steroids and other illegal substances are just one other form of technological innovation. What we need to worry about is educating children about the dangers of alcohol, meth, steroids, etc., and not about Barry's effect on the record book.
But there's an issue far more important than that. We are a nation of hypocrites. We commit unimaginably appalling atrocities daily, but we pride ourselves on our morality in dealing with baseball players' drug use. We assert the right to dominate the world economically and militarily, but we chide our politicians for their sexual behavior.
Unless we soon change our priorities, we will deservedly descend to a world far more horrifying than the one we now occupy.
As for Darwin, I suspect that he was using something.
Posted by: t.a. barnhart | Feb 8, 2009 4:35:33 PM
Harry, yes, Darwin was using something. his brain.
Posted by: joel dan walls | Feb 8, 2009 5:51:09 PM
TA, you were supposed to be eating blackcurrant jam with that toast, and brown sauce on the potatoes. I became so enamored of the former while living in England that now I grow my own. The brown sauce is available at an exorbitant price in the "international" section at Fred Meyer. Hey, you have to enjoy the condiments with an English meal, because the main part of the meal is usually awful.
Kershner sez: But there's an issue far more important than that. We are a nation of hypocrites.
Just wondering whether you're using "we" inclusively or exclusively, Harry. I'll try to be generous and assume the former, not that I've ever seen any evidence in your commentaries of doubt in your self-defined superiority.
Posted by: Ten Bears | Feb 8, 2009 5:55:14 PM
Half a damned good post - baseball sucks, like basketball, football and, hell, like all arena sports, should be illegal. Think about it - a hundred thousand people packed into an enclosed space to rise up in unison: Seig Heil!.
Good take on the Darwin stuff - damned good take.
Posted by: t.a. barnhart | Feb 8, 2009 6:31:09 PM
joel, i do like HP Brown Sauce, but, damn, not at that price. i'll have to find a recipe of my own, i guess (although i suspect it's little more than ketchup with some extra malt vinegar added). i love any kind of jam, but i really love marmalade. i could eat toast (or english muffins, or crumpets, or bagels) and marm 3 times a day. yummers.
10B, to each her own. baseball sucks when the Yankees win. baseball is the key element to life's glory when the Dodgers are playing. there is a reason the sky is blue.
and on a serious side note: there's a very strong argument to be made that Jackie Robinson returning black players to major league baseball was one of the critical moments of the 20th Century civil rights movement. that was followed by Truman integrating the military and Brown, but the country had seen black and white men competing, and winning, together. Jackie was MVP, he was a Worlds Series champ, and others followed him. Willie Mays made his amazing catch in 1954 - only a few months after Brown v Board of Education. Americans may be good at holding contradictory ideas in the heads, but popular culture has a way of undermining even bigotry. you may not enjoy baseball or other such sports yourself (omg, Brandon does it again!!) but i would argue sports have served a key role in "normalizing" the otherness between different ethnicities.
then again, a good college education can do that as well.
Posted by: Aaron V. | Feb 8, 2009 7:36:41 PM
Ten Bears - what a sorry and sad person you are.
Sports as fascism? Sports has always been ahead of the curve in allowing the truly talented excel.
Tell me - how is a sporting event "fascism" and a performing arts event not, in your opinion? In both instances, people are seeing experts in their recreational field attempt to excel; sports is often collaborative in that teams versus each other are necessary for the performance.
Posted by: Zarathustra | Feb 8, 2009 8:20:26 PM
Just wondering whether you're using "we" inclusively or exclusively, Harry. I'll try to be generous and assume the former, not that I've ever seen any evidence in your commentaries of doubt in your self-defined superiority.
Give him a break. It's a prophetic tone. "You" is problematic in English anyway. Suffice to say it doesn't mean you think you're superior. Glad to know that's all anyone's thinking when I write, as I use that tone a lot too. 95% of "you" isn't posting.
I was watching BBC 1's retrospective on Darwin last night and it brought back memories of wading through Origin. BTW, it is a deadly boring read, and I'm a philosopher that finds cricket exciting. If you think Melville's chapter on Cetology is bad, try Darwin's on the rock pigeons he kept in his basement. Anyway, the point for human evolution would be that evolution really doesn't concentrate on specialization; that isn't the goal. In fact, nature views specialization as a very dangerous strategy that should be backed out of the design as soon as possible.
We're an imaginative, aggressive species, so we like to imagine what nature is building, changing, manipulating. Of course, it's a dumb, blind numbers process, and specialization involves making assumptions about the environment. When those assumptions change, you can find yourself SOL real quick. My favorite example is the teeth on the sabre toothed lion. They grew down and back up at least a dozen times in history. Every time, as soon as they weren't needed, they went away. We say that they became a disadvantage, but Jay Gould has shown empirically that it often- actually, usually- makes no sense in terms. It's very much like thinking about dark matter. We have done physics thinking about energy positively expanding the universe, but there is evidence that there is dark energy pushing back. Evolution isn't just a process of specialization, it's runs in reverse with as great force. The best don't always survive. Mollusks got a niche with very few assumptions and have really never changed. In a sense, saying something is most evolved is to admit that every previous version failed, but didn't become a dead end. To be most evolved is to be luckiest, too, but it doesn't mean you have a real good track record in terms of adaptations. Why did only the cat's teeth change? There must be metagenes that regulate how much variance to allow where. Gene therapy probably seems so promising because our metagenes must not be very good, since we're so advanced.
So, every species becomes extinct. When we say it about humans with horror, we mean too soon extinct, as in we've had a rather short run in species terms. To be fair the genus is spectacularly unsuccessful. Of hundreds of hominids that evolved in a very short time, we are the only ones left (unless you can find a yeti, and he turns out to be a hominid). Since our environment is not consistently selecting for much, we must assume that the reverse process is underway. Devo were right, though maybe the lowly spud is pushing it a bit far. ALL domesticated forms are dumber than wild forms of ANY species.
Your point on the brain is well taken. In fact you see all kinds of weird, extreme, things in nature that probably were an adaptation, but have become exaggerated. The peacock's tail or the proboscis monkey's nose come to mind. 99 times out of 100 that is due to the females' selecting the trait because that's what the females of that species do. It is unrelated anymore to evolution. Humans have big brains, bigger than is strictly required for the task, as I believe T.A. was observing, because women select men they think are clever. What's the best way to get a woman thinking about you as a romantic partner? Make her laugh. Humor is humanity's de facto IQ test. That's why adolescent males act goofy around girls. They do think they're being funny...and innately know that if they succeed they increase their chances of mating. That's why humor is frowned on in business; it doesn't do to hand the other side the IQ's of everyone on your team. The essence of all humor is error. What makes it funny is it is just erroneous. By stating what you find funny, you state the level of facts that you can judge as being accurate or inaccurate. Knowing that lets the other side know how much they have to tell the truth.
Perhaps it is most illustrative that only recently is consensus forming around the notion that we really can't even properly define species. It is a constant fascination of mine, that though it is the bedrock of all civilization, law and custom, we have no proper definition of "human". We work out reams of legal logic, every assumption prefaced on another, yet the most fundamental concept, the defining the entity to whom the laws apply, is left undefined, left as another "well I know it when I see it. Everyone does."
Ten Bears, I agree. That was the point about going low brow if you really love a sport, you don't need the flash. Personally, I'd love to see sport go virtual. Good example: no one cares about hockey much in the US. People in Europe pay up to $10/hit to catch regular season NHL action. Why should a franchise only market to the city that it happens to be in, if there are vastly more people around the world that care? So, why not create virtual arenas, where display screens let other virtual groups see each other, everone sees the action, and around the actual stadium those physically present see those virtually present.
You also should check out a South African stadium if you get the chance. Everything from sections of seating that have been enclosed and remodeled into a room where you can have your own party to wading pools and dunk tanks right on the boundary. Often they're built in natural bowls and spectators line the grassy sides with picnic lunches or playing cricket, making out, etc. Of course our security concerns would never let us do anything that naive. Really is a wake-up call when Americans accept as too insecure what South Africans do every day. South Africa. Not exactly the no security hassles beauty spot of the planet.
So, on the Lincoln/Darwin thing, which one was a huge cricket fan? Right, Lincoln. The civil war tore up the pitches and, well, things weren't really cricket there for a while, and baseball took over.
Come one, give Bears a break too. How is it fascism? I don't know, maybe it would involved making everyone sing God Bless America instead of Take Me Out to the Ballgame? Go to an Texas A&M game sometime and tell me you haven't just re-enacted the Nuremburg Rally.
Posted by: t.a. barnhart | Feb 8, 2009 10:31:35 PM
Aaron, if Ten Bears is who i think she (?) is, she's not sad or sorry. her interpretation of team sports as fascism is not very accurate, but there are many aspects of team sports that are sad, sorry & ugly. from the NFL to Barry Bonds to bicycle cheats (Lance is not a cheat, nor do i believe Floyd cheated, either) -- if there's money in it, it becomes a corporate gig. a truly evil corporation, Rupert Murdoch's, owned the Dodgers for a time. really. and to save money, they traded off one of the great catchers of all-time, Mike Piazza. in baseball, and even human, terms, that was a heinous thing to do. they were just trying to maximize profit. it took the Dodgers years to recover from that disaster. thankfully, they are now owned by a couple from Boston who, while still trying to make money, are also working just as hard to honor the game & the community. so sports does not have to resort to fascism; it can actually be a decent enterprise. it's up to the people involved. like everything else in life.
Posted by: Harry Kershner | Feb 9, 2009 12:59:54 PM
t.a.: Mike Piazza was not one of the greatest catchers of all time. He was one of the greatest hitting catchers. The Dodgers wasted him by subjecting him to the destructive effects of catching, one of many examples of why the dumbest people in sports are the owners and management (just like business in general). Even great defensive catchers (of which Piazza was not one) were wasted if they could hit, e.g., think of what Johnny Bench could have done as a first baseman.
Regarding the politics of professional sports: Dave Zirin writes regularly on these topics, but BO regulars should be forwarned: He is to the left of center, so you probably won't like what he has to say.
Posted by: t.a. barnhart | Feb 9, 2009 6:41:34 PM
Harry, i remember thinking as i typed that "hitting..." and still left the word out! his defense was fine, but it was his bat that was dominant. i wouldn't say he was wasted -- many catchers are glad to trade a number of years of productivity for playing the position -- but i am looking forward to Russell Martin moving to 3rd base permanently in 2 or 3 years!
and if you haven't noticed, i'm beyond left of center. i would expect i'd dig Zirin; i will check him out.
Posted by: Gil Johnson | Feb 9, 2009 9:28:30 PM
Alas, we know far too much about baseball stars these days and thus all are found wanting in one way or another. The Bonds vs. Griffey debate has some interesting twists, both being the sons of baseball stars. Some will say it was Bonds passion for the game and his Williams-like obsession for perfection that led him to steroids after 12 unenhanced years in which he was still arguably the best player in baseball. And people will point out that Griffey may have looked as if he was having fun playing the game, but the injuries that diminished him in this decade were the result of a lazy training regimen, not working out in the off-season and not doing the stretching and other things to stay healthy during the season.
I never was a big fan of either guy. There always was Vlad Guerrero and later Albert Pujols and now Evan Longoria. There never will be another Willie Mays.
Posted by: Vida Blue Oregon | Feb 10, 2009 3:03:06 AM
Mays and Williams had the same non-regimen off-season and didn't suffer much. I heard a fascinating theory the other day that the reason today's athletes are more injury prone is that they grow up skinny, then bulk up. They never learned how to move and do things with their built-up bodies and get injured. Back in the day, your middle line backer might have just stepped off the farm where he regularly pushed the tractor out of the mud and had bulked up slowly, while growing up, learning how far to go so that he could go out and work again tomorrow. On that note, I've always been shocked that more athletes don't follow Kareem Abdul-Jabar's lead, and result, using yoga for greater flexibility as a way to extend the career and prevent injuries.
I disagree about scrutiny. The more you got to know the Kid or Johnny B the more you liked them. Scrutiny is only a problem because today's crew lack the same character.
Posted by: Jiang | Feb 11, 2009 7:24:57 PM
It's funny, on this and Jeff's thread, how folks that aren't civil about politics, are, when the context is sport. Have we learned nothing from Nixon? Maybe it says that while there little civility in society, people still know how to be sporting. Shrub wasn't civil, but he was capable of being sporting. That's why Cheney was such a nadir. He wasn't sporting, literally.
Posted by: Jiang | Feb 11, 2009 7:46:36 PM
brown sauce on the potatoes. I became so enamored of the former while living in England that now I grow my own. The brown sauce is available at an exorbitant price in the "international" section at Fred Meyer. Hey, you have to enjoy the condiments with an English meal, because the main part of the meal is usually awful.
or just bland. You have totally ruined what was going to be a perfectly good snack of beans and toast. Hold on; I've a bit of time. All right. This is a recipe that I got off the 'net a ways back and have tried a few times. It is a perfect clone, imo. It's a bit gnarly, so there's a quickie version afterward.
HP Sauce (British, not Canuck stylee)
1 cup water
1 cup white vinegar
1/2 cup tomato paste (1 small can)
3/4 cup dark corn syrup
1/4 cup frozen orange juice concentrate
1/4 cup pitted dates (chopped fine)
3 tablespoons blackstrap molasses
3 tablespoons apple juice
3 tablespoons tamarind pulp
3/4 cup apple cider vinegar
1/2 teaspoon onion powder
1/2 teaspoon whole cloves
1/2 teaspoon whole black peppercorns
1/2 teaspoon cardamom (ground)
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon mustard seeds
1 teaspoon coarse salt
1 inch cinnamon sticks
1. In a large pot, add water, white vinegar, tomato paste, corn syrup, orange juice concentrate, dates, molasses, apple juice, and tamarind pulp. Stir to blend. Over medium heat and covered, bring mixture to a boil. Reduce heat to a slow simmer and simmer covered for 15 - 20 minutes.
2. Using a spice grinder, thoroughly grind onion powder, cloves, black peppercorns, cardamom, garlic powder, mustard seed, cayenne, salt, and cinnamon.
3. After simmering in step #1, use an immersion Blender to purée mixture and reduce lumps. Add ground spice mixture to pot, stir to blend and simmer (covered) for another 30 - 45 minutes.
4. Add cider vinegar to pot, stir to blend and return to a simmer. When pot has reached a simmer, remove from heat and strain hot mixture through a wire strainer into a clean pot. Keep liquid, discard pulp. Rinse original pot and restrain mixture back into original pot, return to heat and simmer until thick.
5. Ladle hot sauce mixture into hot, prepared sealable bottles and seal. Allow to cool. Keeps indefinitely in cupboard, refrigerate after opening.
Simple HP:
10 tomatoes, chopped
1 cup brown sugar (or molasses absorbed onto fructose is better)
1 onion, chopped
1 lemon, sliced
1/4 cup white vinegar
1 tablespoon salt
1 tablespoon allspice
1 teaspoon pepper
1 tablespoon worcestershire sauce
1/4 teaspoon hot sauce (I use Tabasco)
1. Combine all ingredients in a dutch oven.
2. Bring to a boil, lower heat& cook, uncovered, for an hour, stirring occasionally.
3. Strain through a food mill & bottle in hot, sterilized jars.
Posted by: Zarathustra | Feb 12, 2009 12:28:51 AM
For what it's worth, I've tried those recipes and thought they worked better with malt vinegar instead of white. They are spot on.
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Posted by: mrfearless47 | Feb 8, 2009 2:45:16 PM
t.a.
good effort on the Darwin part. But just to clarify something, Darwin never even used the term "evolution". He used "descent with modification", which may change slightly the tenor of your argument. A small nit, I realize, but being a Darwin scholar always makes me a bit touchy about these things. If you read "On The Origin of Species", you'll find the word "evolved" as the only form of the word evolution, and it is used in the last sentence of the book. "Evolution" had a very different meaning in 1858 than it does today and so Darwin tried actively to avoid the term. He did not want "evolution" equated with "progress" as the Victorians were wont to do. He merely meant change over time, which describes nearly everything - even politics - but the challenge for Darwin was to disconnect the typical equation of evolution with improvement. One of the unhappy outcomes of evolution (as descent with modification) is that it doesn't always improve things; it occasionally makes them worse.
But, otherwise a good take on Darwin. Did you forget to mention that Darwin and Lincoln were born on the same day in the same year (February 12, 1809). That is serendipity, but outstanding serendipity nonetheless.
Cheers.