Watch as Sizemore goes for the world record:

ummm... no thanks.

I would love to see an independent point-by-point fact-check of some of the things Sizemore says in this interview. It would seem that he is making quite a few things up in his answers...

Sizmore is a congenital liar. I'm convinced if you show him a piece of green paper, he'll swear it's yellow. The man is going to prison someday for his shenanigans. Just a shame we can't send Loren Parks with him.

He says his wife was basically a "housewife" for all those years and didn't earn any money. Hmm. What about this - CBS Consulting, owned by Cindy Sizemore, earning $174,000. More on that here. If he is being honest now, then CBS Consulting was, as alleged, just a sham company designed to keep the unions from being able to touch Sizemore income. Sizemore is just another dumb crook who can't keep his lies straight.

Not only that, but when was the last time a candidate for Gov. showed up to be interviewed in such casual clothing---saw the interview with someone who thought he looked unkempt.

Posted by: MeghanH | Dec 7, 2009 1:23:40 PM

I would love to see an independent point-by-point fact-check of some of the things Sizemore says in this interview.

That would be journalism, and they just gave him a free political ad. Nice to know when they say the don't have the air time for third party candidates.

And when was KGW bought by Faux News?

The change of tack was noted, here, about 3 years ago, to the usual "ignore the troll" yawns.

Posted by: Becky | Dec 7, 2009 2:31:16 PM

He says his wife was basically a "housewife" for all those years and didn't earn any money.

If I was married to Sizemore, I'd claim that I was married to the house, too.

According to the Oregon SOS' office, "CBS Consulting Company" was registered in 08-19-2004, with Cindy Sizemore as agent. That company was dissolved, and rechartered as CBS Research And Consulting, LLC, exactly a year ago. If our State IT were up to the level of most, we could look at the articles of incorporation online and see who the officers were each time. "Cindy's corp" doesn't show any officers, so until someone gets the incorporation articles, he can argue that she just picked up the mail. However, the question is precisely what the Elections Division asked him at the beginning of the year.

Most interesting is the change to a LLC. In my experience that only makes sense where there are assets to protect in a future court action. Most typically there's a partner with money, and they don't want their larger fortune touched if things turn nasty, so they incorporate as an LLC. So, is that Sizemore's money, a connected partner, or he misunderstands what LLC means? According to the records, he gives his current business address as: 657 SW GLACIER AVE STE 205 REDMOND OR 97756

His address for legal service, though, is: 1796 TURNSTONE RD REDMOND OR 97756

He used the same home and work addresses when he filed as a gubernatorial candidate (plus (541)892-8050 as phone, and [email protected] as email address). The house is listed as "for sale by agent" . Love it. "Funky house" indeed! Redmondites, call for an appointment and check it out! (Carla photo expedition?)

Sizemore owns that domain, belonging to the "Oregon Taxpayers United". Domain info is: Bill Sizemore Oregon Taxpayers United 9123 SE Mt. St. Helens St. Suite 165 Clackamas, OR, 97015 Phone:503-806-5187

One has to think they're logic challenged. Why else publish claims that don't make even logical sense? To whit, the OTU claims: The judge who was been handling the case for three years admitted that he has been hiding a conflict of interest. His son was just elected the head of the teachers union in Woodburn, Oregon.

Ummm...hiding...three years...just elected. That doesn't parse, does it? They go on to basically say any judge in a case where a family member is a member of the union has a conflict of interest. That is simply not US case law.

At any rate, the Glacier Ave business address is in a suite surrounded by home mortgage companies. Looks like nothing but on the second floor, except Sizemore. How does he pay for it? Bet my last thin dime it's a freebie from his Redmond development buddies!

"Funky house" indeed! Redmondites, call for an appointment and check it out! (Carla photo expedition?)

Reading between the lines, it looks like they don't currently live there (bit about "move right in"), so photo expedition could be very straight forward!

This is the second time Sizemore's residence has been a home listed for sale. Here is the first one.

" And showed us all once again how he's been able to survive all these years by sweet-talking folks out of their money." - Kari

Buwhahahhahaa - you've got to be joking with that comparison? The Democratic party is Mac Daddy of talking folks out of their money!

I am wondering how outraged you people are by the Patriot Act?

You seem to have no problem what so ever probing Where Bill Sizemore lives, what domains names he owns, details about his wife.....

Imagine if the US government did that level of spying on a suspected terrorist? I imagine you would all be foaming at the mouths with anger, and hatred.

Posted by: Rahlstrom | Dec 7, 2009 4:35:37 PM

I am wondering how outraged you people are by the Patriot Act?

You seem to have no problem what so ever probing Where Bill Sizemore lives, what domains names he owns, details about his wife.....

Imagine if the US government did that level of spying on a suspected terrorist? I imagine you would all be foaming at the mouths with anger, and hatred.

You really don't get the difference between involuntary and voluntary disclosure, do you? Dittohead ed 101: a corporation is a public entity.

That must be your real name, because I doubt a dittohead could come up with something as good as "Wolf Counselor Storm" as a pseudonym! Wolf counselor indeed. Let me guess what wolf counselor has to say. "It's the natural order to prey on sheep"? Your Viking roots are showing. The politics of pillage!

The Democratic party is Mac Daddy of talking folks out of their money!

There's a first. Never heard a dittohead admit that Dem tax policies were the will of the people! I thought the Dem legislature always snuck them through, breaking campaign promises?

As opposed to recent Republicans that would rather take out a mega loan against the future, writing their childrens' names in as the financially responsible party! Yeah, they're not big on taxes. They'd rather take if from your kids, before they even have a say.

For the record, the Dem supporters of the Patriot Act raise the hackles more. We expect a constant attempt at eroding our freedoms from the Republic Party. Couldn't resist.

Hey Peri - get back to investigating Bill Sizemore. Find out what he eats for dinner, follow him around in his car, maybe Obama will use some Chicago-style politics on him? Rough him up. Just don't Waterboard him!! We all know, that's no right!

That bit about "expedited trial" stood out for me. Could that be the only reason he filed to run? After the trial date is set, he drops out. Not that that makes a whole lot of sense. If I were Buffalo Breath Bill I wouldn't exactly be a summary judgment kind of guy.

Another significant point was the whole deal about not filing, because those documents would be in the courts almost immediately. Is he saying that they could use the truth against him, or admitting he isn't telling it?

Oh, and I don't mean anything by it,- really- but I have to ask out of the purest of curiosities (and just who else would ask this out loud)...is he developing a goiter?

Posted by: Jeff Alworth | Dec 7, 2009 5:03:37 PM

I finally got to listen to this whole show while I bottled an old ale this afternoon

I'm taking advantage of the weather to get some lagers done (Beau's Revenge- a Sam Adams lager clone). This weather is definitely easier to take with a full supply of brewing ingredients (particularly to those that have sworn off the auto), rather than deciding when one has to brave the elements to get to stein fart's.

Always pays in this weather to check on the elderly, bring the pets in, leave the faucets dripping, and make a malt/grain run for your homebrewing friends! Time for a strong Belgian (and I'm not talking Jean Claude van Damme).

Rahlstrom is one of those extremist black/white thinkers that actually believes that Democrats hate America. Thanks, Rush Limbaugh, for the hatemongers. They sure do help us move this country forward.

Groan. This is precisely why I left the Republican party.

Rahlstrom, does your monitor not render bold typeface?

If his house were not on the market I wouldn't comment. Same point. I'll assume the researcher used the same rubric. S(he) could have included where they are actually living at these days. I guess she's out on bail.

How many misstatements, outright falsehoods, misdirections, and shit-eating grins can you cram into a 25-minute interview?

Let me watch Palin's last interview and I will let you know...

My problem with the whole witch hunt to try to silence Bill Sizemore at the hands of the states biggest labor union and now the courts complicity with that agenda, is that it represents further movement down that slippery slope to places we don't want to let our system go. Love him (and alot of people love the guy) or hate him (the rest of Oregon) he has the right to voice his opinion and if he has the time money and energy, to put his initiative petitions to a vote by the citizens of Oregon. The OEA was way out of line here because the lawsuits they filed were nothing more than their not so subtle use of the courts to bully and silence someone who’s opinion is different than their own. Bill Sizemore is not a racketeer no matter how much fun it is for his detractors to say it. I am embarrassed by the tendency of the left leaner’s of our state to immediately assault the person of anyone they can’t shout down. If the liberal thinkers of this state are sure of their convictions then they should not be afraid (and feel the need to ) silence the voice of others for almost any reason! I still find it tragically ironic that the OEA had the stones to accuse any one else of racketeering given their track record of heavy handed politics. The OEA is no one to point fingers at anyone and our initiative petition process does not require the loser to pay back all of the money spent by the people who opposed his initiative. The initiative process is the people’s ability to set the agenda that their elected leaders won't. Weak leadership spawns the need to do an end run on those weaklings and their policies to let the people vote on some of these important issues ...You may not like the issues he forces us to vote on sometimes but his efforts have always sparked a healthy and necessary public discussion of the issues. If they were all so absurd and abusive then I would think he would not be able to gather as many signatures as quickly as he seems to be able too. For the State's largest union to use the courts and legal process to bring suit to stifle the very civil rights that make us the envy of the rest of the world is shameful ...the fact that the first Judge in that case refused to act fairly and according to his sworn oath and called this case for the home team ...is equally shameful ...that the Oregon court of appeals had the wisdom to see this red herring which was apparently lost on Judge Wilson gives me hope that our system still has a chance against the corrupt lawyers and judges who prefer to use legal process to snuff out their opposition and to snuff out the public’s ability to vote on these important issues of the day ... I don't agree with everything Bill Sizemore says and does ...I have met Bill Sizemore and I found him to be extremely articulate and I found his ethics to be above reproach ...when we allow the government to intrude into this process like Judge Wilson has did and now how the democratic attorney general we all lose.

Posted by: Rahlstrom | Dec 7, 2009 5:07:39 PM

Hey Peri - get back to investigating Bill Sizemore. Find out what he eats for dinner, follow him around in his car, maybe Obama will use some Chicago-style politics on him? Rough him up. Just don't Waterboard him!! We all know, that's no right!

Not so fast, there! We need to establish by experimental methods that it is torture. Like using chimps in medical research. Many consider it an acceptable trade. If there has to be a subject for the research...

What I can't figure out, is why he's never worn a goatee.

I found his ethics to be above reproach

I interviewed with Enron in 1998 for a senior management position and found them to be a very progressive, responsible, American corporation!

"My problem with the whole witch hunt to try to silence Bill Sizemore at the hands of the states biggest labor union ..."

So....one set of rules for everyone else and another for Sizemore?

Tiernan and Sizemore wrote a ballot measure together, got it passed, but it was later overturned by the Supreme Court.

Should the court have let it stand because Sizemore is infallible and we should all just shut up?

Or did the judicial review process set up before anyone ever heard of Sizemore just work as expected?

If Tiernan, his former co-author, was saying Sizemore is a great guy being unjustly accused, you might have a point.

But that is not what Tiernan is saying.

"but he actually approached the question as if this campaign might finally settle old battles. "

Remember how he dissed and condescended to high school students when he was riding high in the 1990s?

Well, those high school students are adults by now--some of them even college grads, working in the private sector and raising kids. And this performance was going to win over that demographic?

Or does he still think only voters over 45 really matter?

Posted by: mp97303 | Dec 7, 2009 5:42:33 PM

How many misstatements, outright falsehoods, misdirections, and shit-eating grins can you cram into a 25-minute interview?

Let me watch Palin's last interview and I will let you know...

'I liked talking to President Sarkozy of Paris, Texas on the phone' - SP . Funny how her initials spell "Socialist Party".

All those people making fun of her mom's lifestyle and too much Campbell's Soup! It's class warfare!

Well, maybe. Those with it v those without it.

"Rahlstrom is one of those extremist black/white thinkers that actually believes that Democrats hate America." - Becky

It's ok Becky...after you attend a few pdx rallys, burn an Amerikan flag or two, attend a few Jeremiah Wright sermons...it'll be easier to admit the hate. You won't feel so dirty.

In the mean time, maybe you could put together a little care package for Malik Hassan. He's in the hospital right now.

Even republicans run away when they see Sizemore comming these days.

Sizemore's sugar daddies Parks and Wendt have ridden Bill as far as they can. They still intend to screw the people of Oregon just like Sizemore has all these years. They're the ones we need to watch out for now.

Rahlstrom ---Pedro and Becky have no right to their opinions because you know all?

Do you even live in Oregon? Are you aware there were people who voted for the early Sizemore measures but later got fed up?

You guys are all so much smarter than I am I know ... when I said that "I have met Bill Sizemore and found his ethics to be above repoach" that was because I have met and had a chance to chat with Bill Sizemore and during that time I found his ethics to be above reproach. get it?

My impressions are based upon personal knowledge and experience... unlike your own who are based upon your own personal dislike of anyone and everyone who thinks they know better than the government whats best for their money and thinks there are enough people who agree with him that its something we should vote on.

Where you guys lose me is where you think that by being disgusted with the way the government spends my money and by preferring to keep more of what I earn that smehow that equates to "screwing the people of oregon"

My cursory reading of the OEA's obsession with Sizemore thru the courts showed no evidence that Sizemore told anyone to go forge some signatures ..quite the contrary. Nor was there any evidence that Sizemore needed forged signatures to get a measure over the top...he was way over the top already and even given the extra scrutiny the secretary of state no doubt gave his petitions their audit found them to have a % of bad signatures far below the norm. racketeering? come on no one could seriously define what he did as racketeering. Racketeering in a poltical activist type of environment would be something alot more along the line of what ACORN was caught doing in election after election. Signing up dead people to vote, and all of the rest. Those are the types of bad guys I want to see kroger chase around ...they undermine our entire poltical process and take away the value of each one of our votes. Go harass and stalk and follow and invade those people's privacy.

The Sizemore decision to run for governor are unfortnately more about having a forum to voice his outrage over what he sees as the state and the unions vendetta against him. It would be nice to have an alternative to kitzhaber who couldn't effectively run the state during the good times. I am not saying Sizemore is that guy ...clearly he is not. I was only relating to everyone the results of my contacts and dealings (all good) which won't change because you hate the guy. The pro govt lefties in this state hated sizemore long before his company was convicted of civil racketeering and long before he told all of the lies you apparently found in the video. Where is your outrage over all of the lies we have been told by Obama? I can literally name off over 100 lack and white lies he has told us all .... why does he get a pass when the reality of who obama is was accurately depicted in Jeff Gordons picture ,...Sizemore couldn't get elected to a precinct committeeperson's position and is a non event. Obama is another story and sold us all a bill of goods and continues to lie and renege on his campaign promises across the board ...lets call for him to be accountable to all of the lies and promises he made to everyone of us?

you guys are really what have made this country great ...

Do you believe you are the only person, Roger, who has met Bill Sizemore and made a personal evaluation?

Bruce Hanna or Chris Dudley would make a better Republican candidate than Sizemore.

At one end of the seriousness and civility scale is St. Sen. Frank Morse, at the other end is Bill Sizemore.

Does saying that make a hater or an OEA dupe?

"My cursory reading of the OEA's obsession with Sizemore thru the courts"

Oh, with a cursory reading you decided that no Oregonian who is not an OEA member had any complaints about Sizemore, and you knew more than the people who were in court every day? Or maybe you don't believe in the court system of this state?

And were you upset with the court decision about Dan Doyle? http://www.katu.com/news/3652616.html Or was different because it is only Sizemore vs. OEA you care about, and besides you have never heard of Doyle before?

Roger writes:

I still find it tragically ironic that the OEA had the stones to accuse any one else of racketeering given their track record of heavy handed politics.

Roger, no argument on behalf of Sizemore upsets me more than that one. He always pointed to the unions as the excuse for why he had to play dirty because he said it was the only way to beat them, since they were doing it, too. Well, if we are all for a more ethical and honest government, and to get it we engage in the very activities we despise, then what is the point of even fighting for it? Really, if we can't win on our principles, then we ought to just shut up and move on.

Roger also talks about meeting Sizemore and finding his ethics to be "above reproach." Well, I spent four years in the trenches with the man, so I think my opinion counts a little more than yours does. Yes, he is extremely articulate. But ethical is not a word I would use to describe him. Far from it. He's done more than he has ever been accused of in court. I have often wondered why his case seemed so mired in molasses, why such flagrant abuse of the system could go unpunished for so long, and why reporters have glossed over the details to the point that most people have absolutely no idea what he has done.

You know, those TV preachers who live lives of luxury by charming little old ladies out of their Social Security checks are the closest proximity I can think of to Sizemore. Charming, yes. A rousing speaker, yes. Makes you feel good while he's screwing you over, yes. Ethical, absolutely not.

Sizemore has a zero point zero shot of becoming the next Governor of Oregon in 2010. If anything, he is in the race to make every other Republican moderate in comparison.

So why all the fuss?

He is obviously just boosting his publicity so that more people can see and hear the man who has passed more ballot initiatives in the past 10 years than any other individual or organization in Oregon.

So does it come down to sheer envy that Sizemore initiavies pass, while liberal, tax raising measures routinely fail each election cycle they are proposed?

That is it. Sheer envy that a wingnut such as Sizemore can put his values and ideas in an initiative, place it before Oregonians, and see it have a higher likelihood of passing.

If wingnut measures have passed with more frequency than "progressive" measures, then what does that say about the political preferences of the average Oregonian?

"the man who has passed more ballot initiatives in the past 10 years than any other individual or organization in Oregon."

He also has the record for how many of the measures passed existed in the same form 5 years later--unchanged by legislation and court action.

Perhaps more to the point, in 2000 he put so many measures on the ballot that apparently voters said "enough, already!". I had a phone call from a non-political friend who asked how to identify the Sizemore measures so he could vote against all of them without having to read the entire thick voters pamphlet.

"I've come to the conclusion Sizemore is only in it for himself and doesn't care about anyone else".

For all the rhetoric about the OEA, I suspect there was something else at work, something a friend calls "hubris is followed by nemesis".

All political organizations can scream and shout and strategize and spend money, but if they are ignored it is all to no effect.

A friend who burned out on politics after decades of activism summed up this way, "5% of the population are political activists and/or people who earn a living at politics. They think they decide elections. But elections are really decided by the 95% of the population who rarely do more than vote".

Ryan, as I recall, you once said you live in another state and work the night shift. Well, here is a point to ponder. You said, "If wingnut measures have passed with more frequency than "progressive" measures, then what does that say about the political preferences of the average Oregonian?"

I would submit that there is no "average Oregonian". The friend I just mentioned is a split-ticket voter. If I said he voted Bush/Hooley in 2004 would you know what I was talking about? He owns a small business, is demographically Republican, but once voted for a young Democratic candidate because a woman at work had watched the young man grow up and thought highly of him.

THAT is the sort of decision making many Oregonians do--it is about the individual candidate or measure, not about ideology.

Yes Righties, you've caught us red handed. It is all a giant government plot conceived and executed by Chairman Obama and the Unions to put all you God and Gun Loving Real American Patriots in prison prior to your eventual execution by beheading.

Just thought you'd want to know.

Disregard Roger. He also believes roving packs of "man hating lesbians" are using VAWA to steal the civil rights of 50% of the population. Check out his responses to Susan Neilson's pieces in the O on the recent rash of women murdered by their exes.

They aren't trying to steal our civil rights ...they already have

Posted by: Bartender | Dec 8, 2009 12:43:37 PM

Disregard Roger. He also believes roving packs of "man hating lesbians" are using VAWA to steal the civil rights of 50% of the population. Check out his responses to Susan Neilson's pieces in the O on the recent rash of women murdered by their exes.

Seems to be a favorite pastime with returning military. Not that the news that warns you about the latest manufactured neighborhood terror would mention that.

The Mahatma said that he thought that one learns to kill by eating meat, that it is the route by which violence enters the psyche. Well, he ended up saying that. As a young man he said that Indians would never shake British rule if they didn't start eating meat. Maybe it's just a maturity thang.

<h2>Sizemore isn't the only Republican hopeful for Governor. I'm voting for Allen Alley.</h2>