Urban Greens vs. Rural Progressives

By Pat Hayes in Prospect, Oregon. Pat is a "volvo driving libertarian free market green constitutionalist whose jobs have been logger, Volvo/VW/Audi mechanic, policy wonk, labor and community organizer, and whose loves are spouse, the kid and the dogs."

Reading the popular press, watching TV and listening to talk radio you might have thought that there is a sharp divide between you filthy urban pervert D's and us values driven rural R's. Curious how thirty or forty years changes things.

When I first worked in the woods, loggers, miners, mill workers, farmers and ranchers voted moderate to progressive D. There was a wise and healthy distrust of management, financiers and the mercantile class who voted moderate to conservative R. Now the former vote solidly and consistently conservative to lunatic fringe R, having been sold down the river by urban and green interests for absolutely no discernible or logical reason.

Progressives in the west have allowed greens to shape our agenda to the exclusion of rural communities. Loggers and ranchers, miners and mill workers might grumble and mumble when the kids came back from OSU and [god forbid] UO with long hair and a VW bus, but they were, after all, family. When the kids came back as lawyers and activists to shut down logging, close the mill and empty the ditch they ceased being family and became pariahs.

Progressives, especially those with an environmental agenda, have lost the respect and support of rural westerners [RWs] because they forgot the notion of community. We RWs are not ignorant of or immune to change. We have dealt with markets, banks, the feds and the weather. When adversity struck, however, the community and others stepped up to help. Our current state of affairs, driven as it is by free trade, transnational corporations and corporate profiteering, should have been an open invitation to progressives to recapture our allegiance. Instead we got urbanized greens who drove the stake in further.

We have the opportunity to develop resilient and adaptive communities, but it cannot be achieved by organizations headquartered in Portland or Eugene. Come and live with us in Burns or Lakeview or Nyssa. Help us educate our folks to move from logging to Linux. But please, don't show us how to shellac moose poop onto myrtlewood.

  • John (unverified)
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    Well put!!!

  • Marcello (unverified)
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    Pat, what do Oregon's "rural westerners" think of land use legislation? I have only been here in Oregon a few years and I am not an expert on land use. My feeling is it should help protect farms and rural communities, but that it tends to be opposed by those state representatives who have been elected to represent rural communities. Do "value driven" R voters tend to elect people who really represent their constituents' interests?

  • Gordie (unverified)
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    Amen!

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    Interesting piece, Pat, thanks. I think it's an overstatement to say that urban and green interests have "sold [the rural interests] down the river."

    The urbans and greens have been there to fight against the larger forces that led to unemployment in the rural areas -- that is, exporting jobs oversees, replacing humans with machines, big box retailing, etc. The green press was full of stories about the corporate timber owners who bought up companies only to outsource and replace workers with machines, even with record timber cuts and record timber profits.

    And the greens have been the backbone of support for land use planning, which does its best to keep those nasty wine-sipping liberals from converting productive farm and forestland into tract housing. There are groups like 1000 Friends of Oregon or Pacific Rivers Council, who opposed Measure 64 (the clearcutting ban) in 1998. Both 1000 Friends and the Oregon Environmental Council have farmer advisory groups, and have worked to create partnerships with cattlemen.

    And then there are progessive groups like Oregon Rural Action, Rural Organizing Project, and others, who are NOT based in Portland or Eugene (to be fair, 1000 Friends has six offices around the state, and other groups have offices in Medford, Klamath Falls, etc.)

    Instead, I think that the media (and others) have been attracted to the areas of conflict between certain urbans and greens and the value-driven rural folks. There are certain folks who HAVE worked hard to pass measures that would significantly change current farming and forestry practices, via initiatives, legislation, lawsuits, etc. And apparently those folks have managed to drive away a key constituency of progressivism.

    But in the end, the rural and the urban areas aren't as different as they are similar. In each place, out of any three people, one's a conservative, one's a liberal, and one's in-between. We would do well to remember that person in the middle, who, as you say, can become an ally if we take the time to work together.

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    I'm of mixed feelings about this piece.

    On the one hand, one of the things I want most out of the State Leg. this election is to see some well-thought out Democratic care paid to rural issues, so that we can bridge this alleged divide between the Valley (and it really isn't just Portland) and the rest of the state, and so that we can help each other out. I'd like there to be non-chain places to eat when next I go to Roundup, and trees to ride past for when next I set my fat ass on horseback.

    It saddens me to see farm after farm have to sell out to Simplot or IBP just to get out with any money, or get sued by Monsanto because Monsanto can't control its SchwartzenCorn from cross-pollinating nearby fields.

    But pointing the finger at progressives and "greens" for this alleged "divide" is asinine. It takes two, Pat. I guaran-damn-tee you no one from Portland forced your neighbor's lips against the Koolaid pitcher.

    Urban progressives also didn't put a gun to the head of your local lumber baron and tell him to replant Douglas Fir with Lodgepole Pine, or send all the unfinished logs to Japan, or lay you guys off so he could make the payment on his Bayliner.

    But we HAVE been sending good people to the legislature. We're also trying to buy regular rural food, not this genetic crap for which farmers have to buy seeds to grow every year, and make sure EVERYBODY'S public school has enough money.

    The country folk, in turn, sent... Gordon Smith. Greg Walden. Ben Westlund. The institution of social ignorance and public financial drain that is Homeschooling. Mabon. Those stupid fucking signs along the freeway. If that's not gross abandonment of the high ground, I don't know what is.

    Anyway, we'll keep fighting for everyone in Oregon, and we'll see our rural progressive counterparts when they get together and send one to the Leg., I guess.

  • JS (unverified)
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    Slightly OT, but still interesting, is the fact that RED states (voted for Bush in 2000, primarily rural) take proportionally more money from the federal government and BLUE states (voted for Gore in 2000, more urban) subsidize them.

    From www.dailykos.com...

    States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid and who they voted for in 2000:

    D.C. ($6.17) Gore North Dakota ($2.03) Bush New Mexico ($1.89) Gore Mississippi ($1.84) Bush Alaska ($1.82) Bush West Virginia ($1.74) Bush Montana ($1.64) Bush Alabama ($1.61) Bush South Dakota ($1.59) Bush Arkansas ($1.53) Bush

    In contrast, of the 16 states that are "losers" -- receiving less in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 69% are Blue States that voted for Al Gore in 2000. Indeed, 11 of the 14 (79%) of the states receiving the least federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Blue States. Here are the Top 10 states that supply feed for the federal trough: States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

    New Jersey ($0.62) Gore Connecticut ($0.64) Gore New Hampshire ($0.68) Bush Nevada ($0.73) Bush Illinois ($0.77) Gore Minnesota ($0.77) Gore Colorado ($0.79) Bush Massachusetts ($0.79) California ($0.81) Gore New York ($0.81) Gore

    Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.

  • pdxkona (unverified)
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    <h2>Props to my progressive rural homeboys on the mountain...what up?! Can I get an 'oh yeah!'? Can I get an 'uh-uh'? Can I get an 'Estacada,Sandy,Rhododendron in the house'!</h2>
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