Let’s Win this Thing, People
Our national nightmare week is over. Sitting through the Republican speeches has been painful, infuriating, and considering some of the bold-faced lies, completely outrageous.
We cannot, however, wallow in anger right now. We’re about 60 days out, folks, we need to win this thing. We need to work for Obama (or the Democrat of your choice), talk to our neighbors, family and friends, and pound the pavement. We need to energize our communities, ensure that they are registered and that they are going to vote. The conventions are over – besides the debates, there are few fundamental events that could shift this election.
Now, it just comes down to hard work.
Two more key things we need to do are 1) raise money and 2) dispel the outright lies that were spewed at the Republican Convention.
Here are just a few of the lies…(h/t to Jaelithe at MOMocrats for her research)
Mike Huckabee, 2008 Republican National Convention: "And speaking of Governor Palin, I am so tired of hearing about her lack of experience. I want to tell you folks something. She got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
Actual Number of Votes Received by Joe Biden During the 2008 Democratic Presidential Primary: 79,754
Actual Number of Votes Received by Sarah Palin During the 1999 Wasilla, Alaska Mayoral Election: 909
Rudy Giuliani, 2008 Republican National Convention: "She’s got an 80 percent approval rating. You never get that in New York City, wow."
Actual Approval Rating for Sarah Palin as Governor according to July 30th Rasmussen Poll: 64%
Sarah Palin, 2008 Republican National Convention: "But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate."
Number of Bills Barack Obama Sponsored or Co-Sponsored While in the Illinois State Senate: 823
So, I’m thinking that part of what I will do is this….for every outright lie that BlueOregon readers disprove from the Republican Convention in the comments section (with a citation from a reputable source and actual facts) I will give $10 to the Obama campaign, up to $600 (The money was raised from a collection of family and friends, so a big thank you to them!)
Who’s in?
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Posted by: Bill R. | Sep 5, 2008 6:56:01 PM
The Palin choice tells us this is not just another election but whether or not the country is going to be handed over to James Dobson and his gang of thug theocrats or not. They are in to the end now, and Palin is their ticket. They would wish McCain a short and brief presidency before he croaks so that their dream of founding a fundamentalist dominion can be fulfilled. The assimilation of the Republican Party into the extreme and fundamentalist religious right is now complete. Only the nation remains. So we have a lot to work for in this election.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 5, 2008 7:11:13 PM
Convention watcher -- Thanks so much for the comment.
Sarah Palin was elected twice, bring her total votes to around 2,000...
In order to compare to Biden's votes, she would have had to serve 87 terms of office.
Now, c'mon people. I want to give away some MONEY!
Posted by: doretta | Sep 5, 2008 9:24:54 PM
You missed half the errors in this statement:
Sarah Palin, 2008 Republican National Convention: "But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate."
Obama's first book was a memoir. The Audacity of Hope is a book about political philosophy/policy. She also failed to mention that John McCain has published three memoirs under his name--although he needed a co-author to get them written. That last is not technically an error, of course. Just a sleazy omission.
Posted by: YoungOregonMoonbat | Sep 5, 2008 9:34:23 PM
Kristen,
This bullshit, blatantly partisan hack post is why I am a registered Independent.
You mention the number of votes she received for her first 8 years of experience.
Why don't you get some nuts and post the number of votes she received in the race for Governor of Alaska?
Since you are such a partisan hack who cannot see beyond your party loyalty, then let me post the number of votes in her 2+ more years of executive experience:
114,697
As for Barack Obama's experience in the Ohio State Senate and US Senate, please don't try to equivocate that with Sarah Palin's 8+ years of executive experience as a Mayor and Governor.
As a matter of fact, stop making posts about the VP slot.
Voters do not vote for the VP. If they did, then Walter Mondale would have beat Reagan in 1984.
Use your time and energy against McCain. These posts on Palin look nothing more than a shrill attack from a radical left wing feminist who cannot stand that a woman with traditional values, a marriage of 20 years to her high school sweetheart, and 5 beautiful kids has the best of both worlds.
Posted by: carla axtman | Sep 5, 2008 9:43:50 PM
Use your time and energy against McCain. These posts on Palin look nothing more than a shrill attack from a radical left wing feminist who cannot stand that a woman with traditional values, a marriage of 20 years to her high school sweetheart, and 5 beautiful kids has the best of both worlds.
The best of both worlds? Really?
Putting your quite obviously in-crisis family deliberately in the glare of the media spotlight and bald-faced lying about your positions and what little record you have now qualifies as "the best of both worlds"...?
I've been a registered non-affiliated voter for many years--so please don't use that line as an excuse for your genuflection to a lie. Its stupid and beneath this readership.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 5, 2008 9:46:12 PM
Yep..it's totally partisan. 100%. I'm a full-fledged Democrat, and look forward to giving as much money as I can to beat John McCain.
This isn't a post about Sarah Palin only -- the fact were particularly glaring in her case.
If I was married to my high school sweetheart and had five kids, I would grab a bottle of vodka, join a cult and shave my head. I'm perfectly happy the way I am with my very own husband and kids.
Have just a GREAT day.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 5, 2008 10:08:13 PM
Besides, if we're counting votes for *every* office, you don't *really* want me to go and include all of Joe Biden's votes since he became a Senator in 1972, now do you? That'd be kinda embarrassing...
Posted by: Jenni Simonis | Sep 5, 2008 10:16:59 PM
You mention the number of votes she received for her first 8 years of experience.
Why don't you get some nuts and post the number of votes she received in the race for Governor of Alaska?
Maybe this is because the quote that was being responded to said this:
"I want to tell you folks something. She got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
Nowhere did Huckabee say anything about votes as mayor - he very clearly said MAYOR OF WASILLA, ALASKA.
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Kristen:
I did up a post the other day at Blog for Oregon on this. Here's a section from it:
Giuliani:
But he's never -- he's never run a city. He's never run a state. He's never run a business. He's never run a military unit. He's never had to lead people in crisis.He is the least experienced candidate for president of the United States in at least the last 100 years.
Not a personal attack, a statement of fact. Barack Obama has never led anything, nothing, nada.
From Wikipedia:
After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP)...During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000...
Last I checked, a director definitely leads the organization - especially one where you almost increased the budget six times over and went from one staff member to 13.
Also...
Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition. In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors. Obama's election in February 1990 as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles.
Editor? President overseeing 80 editors? My background is in journalism, and I can tell you that those are definitely leadership positions.
And...
Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.
Another director position - overseeing a staff and a huge team of volunteers.
He also served on the board of directors for numerous non-profits - another leadership position.
And then there's his leadership while in the state senate, which include co-chairing the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules and chairing the Health and Human Services Committee.
Posted by: Douglas K. | Sep 5, 2008 10:36:27 PM
I wonder how McCain would meet Giuliani's test? McCain commanded a naval aviation training squadron from 1977 to 1978. Has he ever "run" anything else?
Actually, the Giuliani test suggests that Sarah Palin is far better prepared to be President of the U.S.A. than John McCain. Maybe McCain chose her because he needed someone with more experience at running stuff to show him how it's done.
Posted by: LT | Sep 5, 2008 10:57:06 PM
This is what I found:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/almanac/2008/people/ak/akgv.php
Elected
Office: Wasilla City Cncl., 1992-96; Wasilla Mayor, 1996-2002.
Election Results
Candidate Total Votes Percent
2006 general Sarah Palin (R) 114,697 48%
Tony Knowles (D) 97,238 41%
Andrew Halcro (I) 22,443 9%
Other 2,944 1%
2006 primary Sarah Palin (R) 51,443 51%
John Binkley (R) 30,349 30%
Frank Murkowski (R) 19,412 19%
2002 general Frank Murkowski (R) 129,279 56%
Fran Ulmer (D) 94,216 41%
Other 7,989
That Almanac has some fascinating prose about her--worth reading, and checking to see if it all fits the other biographies of her including what http://www.ridenbaugh.com/ says about her college experience.
Posted by: John Glenn's ghost | Sep 5, 2008 11:48:43 PM
"As for Barack Obama's experience in the Ohio State Senate and US Senate...
Ohio?
Posted by: Douglas K. | Sep 6, 2008 5:49:37 AM
Okay ... that means Joe Biden got more votes the last time he was elected to the United States Senate than Sarah Palin got for Governor of Alaska.
What is it with Republicans and irrelevant comparisons? Palin compares her previous elected office (eight years as a small-town Mayor) not to Obama's previous elected office (eight years in the Illinois State Senate) but with his first job out of college. Giuliani measures Palin's election as Mayor against Biden's performance in this year's primary (and gets it wrong).
Somehow, the whole Republican party (except Karl Rove) seems to be dazzled by eight years as mayor of a town nobody outside Alaska ever heard of before, but thumbs its nose at eight years representing 200,000 constituents in the Illinois State Senate.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 7:16:23 AM
Cool cool cool --
Jenni, you just raised some money for Obama, and I think Douglas K did, too.
I'm gonna send another donation in 'cause LT found some more info that corrected the research that I had read...thanks, LT.
And, thanks, John Glenn's ghost...you made my morning. Can you imagine how much money we'd raise if we decided to correct trollish behavior?
Posted by: Unrepentant Liberal | Sep 6, 2008 8:33:31 AM
Sarah Palin, great new celebrity. The Paris Hilton of Alaska!
Posted by: Jim H | Sep 6, 2008 9:26:15 AM
Here you go Kristin...
Think Progress reports that Romney said the following:
"And I have one more recommendation for energy conservation — let’s keep Al Gore’s private jet on the ground!"
According to Al Gore's spokesperson: "Gore doesn’t own a jet."
Posted by: Kari Chisholm | Sep 6, 2008 9:28:12 AM
This bullshit, blatantly partisan hack post...
Gee, something "blatantly partisan" on a site called BLUE Oregon... I'm shocked, shocked!
Keep up the good work, Kristin! And YOM, if you think we suck so badly, maybe you should go hang out somewhere else.
Posted by: marv | Sep 6, 2008 9:38:59 AM
The Colbert Report interviewed the Colorado man who has
been advocating for Palin for several years. Perhaps one
of the curious and resourceful people interested in the
source will verify that the advocacy comes from Colorado
Springs. James Dobson focus on the family headquarters is
located there.
I find it interesting that the RNC insured the Cty of St.
Paul for ten million dollars in damages resulting from the
civil suits that will result from the brutal actions of
the police. And yet we see little interest on this site
for the demonstration of a police state and the ability
to pull it all off without mainstream media notice. The
fact that permmission was given to act out against first amendment activity should be alarming. True too is that Track Palin, far from being a volunteeer, stole a bottle of vodka, trashed school buses and managed to avoid jail time by getting in the military. He left Alaska and
has been living in Michigan. Ah. Family values.
Posted by: Harry | Sep 6, 2008 9:41:23 AM
"Giuliani:
But he's never -- he's never run a city. He's never run a state. He's never run a business. He's never run a military unit. He's never had to lead people in crisis.
He is the least experienced candidate for president of the United States in at least the last 100 years.
Not a personal attack, a statement of fact. Barack Obama has never led anything, nothing, nada.
From Wikipedia:
After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP)...During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000...
Last I checked, a director definitely leads the organization - especially one where you almost increased the budget six times over and went from one staff member to 13.
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This is wonderful! This is awesome!!! This is great!!!
Quick, send it to Obama, and he can use it is his next campaign stop, and show Mayor Rudi who is really the experienced candidate!! LOL
Community Organizer??? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Community Organizers of the World, Unite! Obama is your fearless and EXPERIENCED leader!
Posted by: Pat Malach | Sep 6, 2008 9:48:22 AM
Well, the worst foreign policy team in the history of the United States was chock full of experience: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc., Look what that got us.
We'd be better off picking a president by lottery at a soup kitchen than to put a bunch of Republican ideologues back in office.
Posted by: Harry | Sep 6, 2008 9:49:32 AM
It is good to know that Obama won't use your pathetic community organizer defense.
I saw him on FoxNews, and he took on LoudMouth Bill and did really well. You should watch Obama, even if you can't stand Bill! Obama is well spoken and credible (and Joe Biden was right, he looked clean too!)
GoBama! Just don't Go on your community organizer experience.
Weren't you a state senator also? Oh, yeah.
Present!
Present!
Yes, Sen Obama is Present!!
Present!!
Yes or No? Ah, neither. Sen Obama votes PRESENT
Posted by: Randy2 | Sep 6, 2008 10:08:59 AM
...umm, not directly responsive to the post, but wasn't Jesus Christ a community organizer?
The dark side of the attitude trashing community organizing is the fear community organizing (not to mention voter registration) creates in those who have a vested interest in keeping the masses uneducated, fearful of each other and not exercising their voter franchise.
I suspect another unvoiced fear of the Republicans is the possibility that if Obama is elected, he will come into office with a completely new huge data-base of citizens who can begin to look at their other elected representatives in 2010.
Randy2
Posted by: Harry | Sep 6, 2008 10:17:14 AM
So Obama is now like Jesus Christ?
Obama, The Chosen One (Rep Pelosi)
Obama, The Messiah (his devoted followers)
Obama, like Jesus Christ (Randy2)
Wow! More great campaign strategy from BlueOregon idiots.
Go with it, it might just work!!
Posted by: Jim H | Sep 6, 2008 10:26:58 AM
Harry, you are obviously not a Christian. So just to clue you in... One of the key aspects of Christianity is that we should all strive to be *like* Jesus Christ and follow his examples.
Posted by: joel dan walls | Sep 6, 2008 10:49:34 AM
Yo Harry, again paraphrasing a friend, Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate a governor. (Of course you are incapable of interpreting this bit of screwball humorous "analogy" as anything but a literal comparison of Obama to Jesus.)
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 10:53:44 AM
hmmm....maybe I should give $10 for every unproductive comment by Harry...hmmmm...I think I like it.
Posted by: carla axtman | Sep 6, 2008 11:50:40 AM
We'd be better off picking a president by lottery at a soup kitchen than to put a bunch of Republican ideologues back in office.
Of late I've had rare occasion to agree with Pat--thus I feel its noteworthy when it does indeed happen.
Therefore an emphatic, "What Pat said".
Posted by: RW | Sep 6, 2008 11:54:56 AM
Yah, it was a bummer when Harry thought to use me as a tool [darker reference points intended] in one of his scrums. Hah.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 12:11:14 PM
Okeydoke, friends (I'm taking "friends" back from McCain),
Between Harry's snarkiness and great fact-checkers, we've raised $70. I'll put it in the mail today.
I can keep sending money all throughout the campaign. If anyone finds another lie to correct, post it, even up until the very end, and I will send the dough....
Posted by: RW | Sep 6, 2008 12:24:32 PM
I tried to post something filled with factoid-checkin' URLs, but the site won't let it load, dammit. You'd be sending a bigger check, for sure.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 12:40:41 PM
Rebecca,
Don't worry about URL's -- just tell me the lie and the correction and the name of the place you found it and I'll look for myself...
Posted by: Bill R. | Sep 6, 2008 12:54:26 PM
I'd like to see the day when Blue Oregon exists for the progressive community and not a toilet for the McCain/Nader trolls. How's about it, Kari???
On another brighter note today in Indiana Barack Obama confronts the fiction about the Republican ticket as the "change" agent.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/obama-targets-m.html
"Everywhere I go we've been talking about change, that's been the theme of the campaign. And we must be on to something, because I notice now everyone's talking about change now.
John McCain has said that change is coming!
Now think about this coming from the party that's been in charge for 8 years, they've been running the show! Been up in the White House, John McCain brags, '90% of the time I have voted with George Bush. He and I we we're right there' and suddenly he's the change agent!
He says I'm going to tell those lobbyists that their days in Washington are over. Who's he gonna tell? Is he gonna tell his campaign chairman who's one of the biggest corporate lobbyists in Washington? Is he going to tell all the folks who are running his campaign who are the biggest corporate lobbyist in Washington? Who is it that he's going to tell that change is coming?
I mean come on! They must think you're stupid!
I mean, maybe what they're saying is 'watch out George Bush' you know except for economic policies, and tax policies, and energy policies, and health care policies, and education policies, and Karl Rove style of politics – except for all that, we're really going to bring change to Washington! We're gonna shake things up! What are these guys talking about? Do you think we haven’t been paying attention over the past 8 years?
(Obama then went point by point through education, tax policy, energy policy and health care telling voters why McCain’s version of change is not change like the kind he will bring.)
I know the governor of Alaska has been, you know, saying she is change. And that is great. She is a skillful politician. But when you been taking all these earmarks when it is convenient and then suddenly you are the champion anti-earmark person. That is not change, come on. I mean, words mean something. You can't just make stuff up. You can’t just make stuff up. We have a choice to make and the choice is clear.
Don't be fooled. These are the folks who have been in charge. John McCain's party, with the help of John McCain, has been in charge."
Posted by: RW | Sep 6, 2008 12:59:00 PM
Here we go then - it's from that infamous Kilkenny letter, and various sites vetting her comms.
The letter - mudflats.wordpress
The Nation - the_word_from_wasilia
The New York Times - "wasilia"
Zimbio - looks like a wiki
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 1:13:00 PM
Thanks Bill and Rebecca...great, great, great.
That Obama speech is so wonderful...he fights back without sounding petty...perfecto
Posted by: Pat Ryan | Sep 6, 2008 1:18:09 PM
McCain quote:
She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- and made a profit!" McCain declared in Wisconsin at a campaign stop on ...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/05/plane_not_sold_on_ebay.html
She actually didn't get any useful bids on ebay at 2.6M, and wound up selling the plane several months later through the speaker of the Alaska House to a local businessman for 2.1 several months later.
Bridge to Nowhere:
First supported. Then opposed. While in "opposition" to the earmark, arranged to keep a;ll of the disputed funds but "repurposed it.--source Alaska state Senate President
Posted by: Harry Kershner | Sep 6, 2008 1:31:05 PM
YoungOregonMoonbat claimed, "These posts on Palin look nothing more than a shrill attack from a radical left wing feminist..."
I want to defend Kristin against these scurrilous attacks. She most definitely is not "radical" or "left wing". It's only on right-of-center, DP-worshiping blogs like this that she can seem to be so.
Posted by: marv | Sep 6, 2008 1:53:19 PM
Ignoring that emotions and not facts are what is driving
the McCain/Palin campaign it could be added, on the subject of experience, that after surviving a recall which
was a reaction to Sarah's attempt to fire the Library
director for not banning the books Sarah didn't like, she
hired an administrator for Wasilla. Sarah took a cut in
pay; looks like she is making up for it now.
It is easy to see why she appeals to the end of times
people. My personal experience is that they can not be
reasoned with.
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 1:57:26 PM
Harry,
Have we met? Do you know me? Just because I don't agree with some of what you have written, doesn't mean that you get to define left-wing or radical.
It still amazes me how some folks think that they own the Left. As I tell my kids all of the time, "it's time to share!"
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 2:03:16 PM
Also, if you think BlueOregon so "right-of-center, DP-worshiping" why do you spend so very, very, very much time here? It's not like we're handing out free refreshments...
Posted by: RW | Sep 6, 2008 2:17:29 PM
Could not find the thread where a self-described Right-Wing troll posted, so will save the entirety of my disquisition on the nuances of what that poster might have meant... However, Sarah and friends, don't let Harry's insistent, mediocre bludgeoning away at raconteurism induce you to pissing matches and hasty posts.
troll
An electronic mail message, Usenet posting or other (electronic) communication which is intentionally incorrect, but not overtly controversial (compare flame bait), or the act of sending such a message. Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key. A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds.
Dictionary of Computing
Not saying Harry is particularly subtle (personal insight moments offered to all here), but are we here to squabble or are we here to debate?
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 2:29:56 PM
No worries, Rebecca. It was a good reminder.
On that note, let me add one more thing to our to-do list:
Democrats need to keep our eyes on the prize, save our energy for the real fight and not engage with trolls -- of any political persuasion.
I'll remember it myself. Breathing. Breathing.
Posted by: genop | Sep 6, 2008 2:54:22 PM
The omission of Obama's leadership skills and the experience he just demonstrated in winning the Democratic primary against a highly skilled opponent is conveniently ignored by all who denigrate him. I think it contradicts at least five separate attack statements on his alleged lack of executive experience.
Posted by: Oregonian37 | Sep 6, 2008 3:42:02 PM
A big high 5 to genop for that one! Damn skippy.:)
Posted by: RW | Sep 6, 2008 3:57:28 PM
Genop, was thinking the same. Incisive, clean. For all the noise and bluster I leak, I recognize clarity and love its expression. Breathe it in!
Posted by: nadja s | Sep 6, 2008 5:00:46 PM
I think it is time for Biden and Obama to turn nasty. Palin is outright lying and smiling at the same time. People are eating up her pat, snarky lines and forgetting that she is a nobody politician from a tiny state. Somebody is feeding her great lines, and her delivery is magnificent - - sneering, snide, and cruel.
Read Glenn Greenwald's Sept. 4 post from his blog at Salon - - he nails it firmly - - Republicans are vicious and will frame Obama as weak, elite, foreign, etc. and frame McCain as the patriotic war veteran with his perky sidekick. Yuck. But it works, people. They are trying to make you forget the last 8 years of misrule in this country! No issues, just insults.
I recommend that Obama/Biden step up the innuendo some. Throw out a few good lines labelling Palin as the minor inexperienced politician that she is, and McCain as the doddering, rich, old fool.
Posted by: Jefffrane | Sep 6, 2008 6:01:44 PM
Giuliani:
But he's never -- he's never run a city. He's never run a state. He's never run a business. He's never run a military unit. He's never had to lead people in crisis.
He is the least experienced candidate for president of the United States in at least the last 100 years.
Not a personal attack, a statement of fact. Barack Obama has never led anything, nothing, nada.
What needs to be pointed out, over and over again is that Rudy has used this argument before. Except, well, he was talking about John McCain.
Giuliani, who never served in the military, said McCain “has never run a city, never run a state, never run a government. He has never been responsible as a mayor for the safety and security of millions of people, and he has never run a law enforcement agency, which I have done.”
Posted by: Kristin | Sep 6, 2008 6:24:32 PM
Oh YEAH! Jeffrane, that is just beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. I'm sending $20 for that!
Posted by: Harry | Sep 6, 2008 8:22:55 PM
(Harry is back from enjoying a wonderful day in the sun..)
"Oh YEAH! Jeffrane (sic), that is just beautiful."
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Come on Krisstin (sic), get Jefffrane's name correct!
Good Job, Jefffrane!! I agree with you on your point, which is extremely valuable and accurate.
Jefffrane says (and is worth repeating, so I do):
"What needs to be pointed out, over and over again is that Rudy has used this argument before. Except, well, he was talking about John McCain."
Please do.
Point it out "over and over again".
The truth is that Gov Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience than all three Senators combined. (The Ex-Mayor of NYC says "both (democratic) Senators combined" but I just add the additional truth point for veracity.) Keep pointing that out "over and over again".
Yes, it does expose and embarass Sen McCain somewhat, but he is old enough, and comfortable enough in his maverick status, to take that implied insult knowing that any additional on the job training in EXECUTIVE execution that McCain needs to get, he can get from his VP.
Too bad for Obama, that he:
- is not secure enough in his 4 years experience in the US Senate running for President, and a few more years in the state senate, that he has to brag about being a 'community organizer' for 3 years PRIOR to his law school. Does anyone even CARE what Biden did before law school?!! What about Bill or Hillary? Bonus points for anybody who can educate us what jobs those three held prior to law school? (Bill: dope smoking Rhodes Scholar; how about Joe and Hill?) Shows just how thin Obama's resume really is. How many lawyers in their 40s even list any experience pre law school?
-could not even describe what a community organizer does. From his own book, Obama writes: “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly,” Obama wrote. “Instead, I’d pronounce on the need for change,” he continued. “Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the Congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
So there you have it.
Executive experience.
Small town mayor. Or community organizer.
Governor of Alaska or State Senator and Campaigner for President.
PS to joe dan walls:
"Yo Harry, again paraphrasing a friend, Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate a governor."
Yo joe dan walls, you are a liar. You did NOT paraphrase a friend. You just subscribe to the Democrats talking points. See below for your exposure:
Jonathan Martin of The Politico, posting the “Democrat reader email of the day,” which read “Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor.”
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Posted by: Conventions watcher | Sep 5, 2008 6:27:04 PM
I agree with you in spirit, but I assumed that when Huckabee made that crack about Palin's votes exceeding Biden's, he was counting ALL her elections as mayor. I don't know how many times she was elected.