Boiling down the difference in world view between the right wing and the progressive left. Communitarianism vs. Ayn Rand uber-narcissism.

Pretty amazing poll numbers on Coffee Party site.

In your opinion, what is the most urgent issue... Only "9%" for climate change?

I thought if we didn't take drastic measures soon, billions of people were going to die? I get the distinct feeling that the majority of people on the left are indoubt planetary destruction via global warming.

Looks like ClimateGate is having an effect....

Only, 9% see climate change, but wait Oregon spend billions in Oregon tax credits to stop climate change, and provide green jobs. Was science before solution!!! I was taught as a fourth grader to understand the problem, before I try to fix it.

Any, didn't most of the companies, all that I followed that Oregon funded that were to help green jobs and energy, go bankrupt!! Yea I think that proves my teacher right, if you try to fix something you don't understand.

Now, wait a minute , did I hear that right, we wasted billions in Oregon in tax credits, because in the news and advertising, all the noise from the politicians was that we need to raise taxes, for essential services like schools. which by the way worked out to be a little over $700 million

SO WOW. I just don't understand, are we waiting billions on green tax credits? Or do we need more money for essential services we can't live without?

This just not make sense to me!!!!!!!!

Another good quote, and what a good call!!! Nikita Khrushchev- "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism"

Some of the best small businesses in Oregon are related to tea. Hope the coffee v. tea thing does not gain traction.

Just say no to idiots regardless of what they drink.

Only 9% in the poll having rated the climate instability as being the major problem that it is reflects only upon misplaced priorities, even amongst the Coffee Party faithful.

So, RDurig, giving private businesses tax relief on the basis of their pursuing alternative energy or efficiency is somehow related to a socialist/communist agenda? The BETC is an aid to the profitability of private business- is that consistent with a socialist/communist agenda?

(Socialists/Communists are opposed to profitable private business. "You could look it up", as a wise old man once said).

Why coffee versus tea, why not coffee AND tea? If the coffee wants a constructive dialog, we'd love to have it.

The Coffee Party is a centrist movement with perhaps some progressive undertones. It is not beholden to the Republican or Democratic Parties, stricly grassroots. I attended a DC Coffee Party meeting this past Saturday. 40-50 people were in attendance, white, black, latino, south & east asian, men, women, Fed Gov, military, civic activists, professors, laborers, lawyers, college students, professionals; ages ranging from early twenties to 50+; truly a cross section of America. As a military officer w/21 years of service, I find it to be a diverse, intelligent group of people who want to come up with real solutions to the problems facing America, in a pragmatic and civil manner through engagement with those who have differing opinions, vice shouting and hyperbole; as well as to hold elected officals feet to the fire with regrd to working to move America forward. Pls forgive any typos...

It is usually a good thing to see regular citizens connect with each other and discuss issues. I don't agree with their progressive leanings, but still applaud them for taking steps to be more engaged.

"the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will."

We are the Coffee Party. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

The problem with America can easily be boiled down to a single question:

Would you like a nice, cold glass of donkey piss to go with that juicy plate of elephant shit you've ordered? Bon appetit!

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Tom Degan Goshen, NY

The founder of the Coffee Party gets her directions straight from the White House. She is just another Obama worshipping obamatron. Talking about Astroturf. This outfit won't last as long as Air America did.

I joined a couple of hours ago.

The video of this woman standing on a busy street in the snow, rationally, calmly explaining the pragmatic position of a patriotic citizen looking for a more perfect union.

Simple, commonsense, I hope they don't arrest her.

I wonder about these arguments against limiting carbon emmissions and human effect on global climate change.

If we wait we could soon reach a point of no return. That may not be true.

All of the peer reviewed science in the world expressly agrees the premise of global warming and humans effect on it's increase. Yet, they could all be liars, and wrong, global warming may well be a conspiracy as suggested by some.

And if it's not? The worse that could happen is that we could use far better engergy. We achieve national security from corrupted energy sources while achieving energy independance. Now that would be terrible.

The crap shoot with enviromental survival for our future generations! Is that an option?

I think healthcare leads the poll because that's one of the big things on everyone's mind right now and people are tired of all the BS going on in the Senate over it.

One of the problems with human caused climate change is that it doesn't fit well with human time scales. Climate doesn't change that fast but it keeps on changing for a long time (again on human time scales). For instance even if we could stop emitting CO2 tomorrow it would take 50 or 100 years before the warming stopped and probably 300 years or so before the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets stopped melting and reached a new equilibrium. If things get bad enough to cause a collapse of ecosystems and civilization then billions may die, just not in the next 20 or 30 years.

Please Steve Army you quote is

"The BETC is an aid to the profitability of private business."

It a joke, have you been reading the Oregonian on this mess, please keep government aid away from me, the private sector beleive's it's anouther joke, even those involved. Wait to see the electric bills to come!!!!!

It's a fact the more personal freedoms the higher the social standards, I want to help the poor, not hurt them. Please stop hurting the poor and disenfranchised the ones you claim to be helping. Again the freer the society the higher the living standard of the poor.

But I would like to quote what a Milton Freemand would say about BETC "Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program." -- Dr. Milton Friedman, Nobel-Prize-winning economist

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