Bradbury and Kitzhaber on KGW
Kari Chisholm
Tonight, Bill Bradbury and John Kitzhaber debated live on KGW-8 television.
Bradbury said that as governor he would work to make Oregon the world's sustainability capital. He believes the key to Oregon's future employment health lies in technology and new energy resources. He presented three major priorities to consider in managing the state's budget: Education, Environment and Elder care.
Former Gov. John Kitzhaber said that in the time since he'd left office, Oregon had possibly become an "even more ungovernable state" than it had been when he left Salem. ...
"I can navigate Oregon through the chasm we face. Oregon is not California - but we could go the way of California without strong leadership," Kitzhaber said in reference to the financial pitfalls faced recently.
Use this space to discuss the debate. On the jump, the archived video from KGW.
Here's part one (you may need to jump ahead a few minutes to get past the recorded dead air):
Part 2:
Part 3:
Part 4:
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2:40 a.m.
Apr 29, '10
[Full disclosure: My firm built John Kitzhaber's campaign website. I speak only for myself.]
8:44 a.m.
Apr 29, '10
I really like Kitzhaber's platform, especially for tax reform, education, and workforce and economic development. I also believe he's the more centrist candidate, and wouldn't be near as divisive as Bradbury.
12:11 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
2:41 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
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3:16 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
Me too. Surprised that a spammer actually authenticated in here. That was the first one (while the old BlueOregon had several thousand a day we had to clean up.)
In any case, the comment is now gone, the user is now banned, and I was going to report 'em to Facebook - but Facebook already took care of that.
3:21 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
Jason, I don't believe that Kitzhaber's a "centrist" candidate.
I know that the media have reported that a few times lately, but it's not what he said.
What he actually said, at the Enviro debate for example, is that we need to rebuild "an operational progressive majority" in Oregon that was once the political center.
Once upon a time, there were Republicans like Tom McCall and Mark Hatfield whom we would today call progressive environmentalists.
Kitzhaber's arguing that we need to move the center back to the left. Rebuild an operational progressive center.
12:13 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
Bill Bradbury is the only candidate with substantial plans for turning the economy around and helping to keep it rescession proof in the future. All Kitzhaber offers is more taxes and liquidation of assets. We need our jobs back and new jobs including in clean energy and retrofitting building construction. We need the Bank of Oregon to support small business keeping our money home, some non-productive tax loopholes closed to fully fund public schools and finance job training, and Bill Bradbury for Governor.
12:42 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
I find your partisan characterization not very accurate at all. Both candidates have solid plans (and in large parts fairly similar).
3:18 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
"All Kitzhaber offers is more taxes."
Huh? Can you cite a source on that?
12:39 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
Crap. The part 4 clip cuts off Kitzhaber's closing statement mid-sentence.
As to rest, differentiation was a challenge in this debate, and I mean that in the positive sense. I think either would be good Governors.
That said, Kitzhaber impressed me and has upped my perceptions of him from what I remembered of him as Governor back in the 90s and early 00s (I was more focused on national politics back then).
I have always held Bradbury in high regard, and so this is shaping up to be a tough call for me for the primary.
6:15 p.m.
Apr 29, '10
Caught the debate on KGW last night. Though quite civil and non confrontational, I thought Kitz cleaned Bradbury's clock. One came across well, had the right tone and hit the bullet points like a pro while the other came off like a loud ideologue lacking well reasoned solutions. Maybe it's just me.
Full disclosure: John Kitzhaber was once my next door neighbor and struck me as a decent guy but I speak only for myself.
9:02 a.m.
Apr 30, '10
Kari,
I understand he's still a liberal, but compared to Bradbury he's certainly more of a centrist. Bradbury kept touting that he was "proud to be a democrat." And Kitzhaber said that "It doesn't matter if there's a Republican or Democrat in office, but someone who understands the issues well and can lead Oregon through these difficult times." (Obviously, my version of the quotes.)
Kitzhaber's positions on the environment still well with me, so I don't really see them as "progressive" but responsible and reasonable.
In my opinion, Kitzhaber isn't as liberal as Bradbury, and has a better chance of winning independents and moderates.