Three observations

By Congressman Earl Blumenauer. Congressman Blumenauer (D-Portland) was re-elected on Tuesday with 70% of the vote.

I have three observations on the results of Tuesday's election.

The Strength of Oregon Progressives

If, in the midst of a red wave, in Oregon’s worst economy in years, with Democrats totally in charge and to blame, the other side cannot win with a well shielded, well funded, attractive candidate with no record to compare against our candidate who has a long record to attack and distort and almost $3 million dollars less to spend, when will they?

The Blue Wall Against the Red Tide

Oregon returned our Congressional Democrats, elected a Democratic governor, and Washington is re-electing Patty Murray. California showed strength, winning the Governorship (against $158 million from Meg’s piggy bank), re-electing Boxer, and most stunningly, defeating the anti-climate Measure 23.

Future Prospects

Chickens will come home to roost quickly if the GOP really doesn’t try to work with Democrats and President Obama. This is the first wave election in history where the winners (the GOP) have lower approval than the losers (Dems). One poll actually shows 59% of voters expect to be disappointed in the Republicans by 2012.

Just maybe, this will create an opportunity to cut unnecessary defense spending, reform agriculture and farm policy to help farmers and ranchers while saving money and protecting the environment, while working together to rebuild and renew America.

Just maybe.

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    Thank you Rep. Blumenauer. This gives me HOPE.

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    Thanks, Rep. Blumenauer. The GOP has to do something other than throw rocks now. And the public is right about not expecting them to be constructive. The leader of the GOP is now John Boehner. And they couldn't have chosen a more uninspired and incompetent leader. So I expect you and your colleagues to hold their feet to the fire and not give an inch on progressive priorities.

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    Gracias Congressman.

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    1. Republicans winning at anytime in the above-mentioned states is a stretch. I'm not convinced one can imply the "strength" of Oregon progressives is the reason, especially when one corner of the state (nearly 70% Democrat) decides the outcome of most elections and measures. And considering the fact that most of the elections were much closer than anticipated.

    2.If the Democrats had worked harder on compromise and collaboration the past four-years, maybe they wouldn't have lost so badly; and same goes for Republicans when they lost in 2006. But you're right, if Republicans yield their power for themselves, the pendulum will once again swing the other direction.

    1. Maybe it's just me, but isn't the number one priority of many Americans jobs and the economy? Even Kitzhaber focused on jobs during his acceptance speech this morning, and yesterday Obama acknowledged that Americans didn't believe the economy was one of his top priorities.

    I guess I'm a little confused why defense spending would be your top priority when unemployment continues to be so high.

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        What you are saying is not factual. The technique of forcing a bill to require 60 votes has been used for a great number of years. The Democrats used it extensively during GW Bush's two terms to block legislation and judges.

        So, either you believe what you are saying, which would show a complete lack of any sense of history, or you are being hypocritical. As in: When Democrats do this it is "strategy." When Republicans do this it is "obstructionism."

        Oh and, by the way, the American people know plenty about the Democrat's accomplishments over the last two years. That is why the vote turned out like it did.

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          Ken, I didn't write that the filibuster hasn't been used before. What I wrote is that the extent it was used in the last Congress is unprecedented, and that is factual.

          There's a chart on this page that shows the extent of filibustering compared to previous sessions: http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/our-broken-senate

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            A brilliant author named Robert A. Heinlein once proposed that there should be a bicameral legislature. One chamber could pass laws with a 2/3 majority, and another whose only function was to repeal laws with a 1/3 minority approval.

            The reasoning was that if 2/3 of the body couldn't support a bill it didn't deserve to pass. Conversely, if 1/3 of the population thought a bill should be repealed then it should go.

            I have to say I liked that concept.

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      I have to disagree with the last part of your point #1 (most of the elections were much closer than anticipated). At least for the big ones.

      Nate Silver's modeling of all the polls showed essentially a dead heat in the governor's race. Wyden was projected to win by around 18, and that's exactly what happened. Schrader was actually projected to lose, and he pulled it out by a respectable margin. DeFazio's probably the only won who underperformed expectations and he still won by 10 points.

      Actually, the first part of your #1 isn't all that great either (CA's current R governor, WA & OR have both had R Senators in the past 10 years, etc.).

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      Michael and Sonya already addressed the laughable claim you are trotting out that somehow the Democrats at the Federal level didn't compromise and collaborate enough with the GOP and that is why the Democrats lost a lot of seats this cycle, but when you say this:

      I'm not convinced one can imply the "strength" of Oregon progressives is the reason, especially when one corner of the state (nearly 70% Democrat) decides the outcome of most elections and measures.

      I have to ask what exactly you are trying to say there. Are Democrats who (according to you are one corner of the state) deciding the outcomes of most elections and measure in the state somehow no "progressives"...?

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        Mitchell they lost the seats because they no longer represented the will or direction of their constituents...thats all. You guys need to understand when legislation that is being passed is a repudiatio and an end run on the will of the majority of americans, as well as a 180 degree turn away from the values and principles that have guided this country for over 200 years very succesfully there is no room to compromise...NONE and the reason the people who refused to compromise all got to keep their jobs is because they understand that. The only reason earl still has his job is because he happens to represent a ridiculously liberal pocket of people too stupid to come in from the rain

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          Wrong.

          Democrats lost seats (far and away Blue Dog Dems, btw) because people are impatient and scared about jobs. The GOP stoked and pushed that fear.

          In 2 years if the job picture hasn't vastly improved, it will very likely swing back the other way.

          Careful with that hubris, Robert. It's blinding you.

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            Carla you still don't get it anymore than Obama fails to get it ...People think Jobs are important and Obama spent two years and congress spent the last 4 years passing one expensive job killing law after another... It wasn't jobs that caused the grass roots tea party to rise up and deliver a historic loss of seats and power for the left....it was the 1.5 trillion dollar annual deficits...it was the burying this country in debt and then doubling down on that stupidity. are you trying to tell me that the 60 or so democrats who lost (is that the most ever? or just in the last 100 yrs?) were blue dog dems? ha ha ha

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              Michael:

              The economy added 1.1 million private sector jobs so far in 2010. By comparison, the economy lost nearly 4.7 million private-sector jobs in 2009, and lost 3.8 million in 2008.

              (source: Bureau of Labor Statistics)

              You were saying?

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                Robert, there are people having bona fide conversations and people repeating an a priori ideological position. BO will beat the drum for whatever the Dem meme is. They will never revisit past statements when they are proven wrong. Carla, in particular, has wasted countless progressives' time with what they thought were real conversations. You're debating a bot. As they say with the ignorance tax (lottery), "Strictly entertainment; not for investment purposes". If you've got the time to waste, fine, but know that your odds are nil of getting something responsive back.

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          HA HA!! Another comedian.

          Even Republicans are saying this "tide" did not happen because the American people LIKE them or their ideas. Their popularity remains low. It's because they are frustrated with the jobless numbers. Every Dem who blocked the extension of Unemployment benefits was sent home, so that should also tell you something.

          If this country had the employment rates such as those under Bill Clinton, Barack Obama would be a very popular president and Republicans bleating "tax cuts for the rich" would be laughed at. Unfortunately, Pres. Obama cannot stop a runaway train traveling downhill at 200 mph in 10 seconds.

          So, the GOP was swept into shared power on Tuesday. WHERE ARE THE JOBS? LOL

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            Earl's comment that the Dems are viewed more favorably than the right was the ridiculous and untruthful comment I was referring too. I admit both parties have a ways to go and that being more popular than the dems is like standing next to a fat girl at a beauty contest I agree it doesn't mean that everyone now loves the GOP ... but anyone who tries to claim after a blood bath like tuesday that the people view dems more favorably than the GOP is lying to you. In other words Earl is a liar and is lying to you when he says that.

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          Both Carla and Sonya have already said it well. Your comment is not only wrong in its premise, but also does nothing to address that actual point of clarification from Jason about the seeming implication in his comment that it was Democrats who decided the outcomes of most elections and measure in the state somehow not "progressives", which makes zero sense.

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          oh... time for Glen Beck Bingo!!! "values and principles" for the center square!!!!

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    Text turned out strange. Obviously the the third section should be point 3. Not sure what happenened.

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    Washington DC Republicans have perfected the art of being jerks. I doubt that will change, and hope that the electorate will wake up to what it's elected in this red tide of greed.

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    Earl, Congratulations to you on reelection as my rep and for these thoughtful comments.

    Jason: why cut military spending: let's say a big corporation churns out cluster-bombs, a favorite Pentagon weapon that has been outlawed by most other countries. This product is of no use except dismemberment and death of civilians, and yet all the costs and the profits are paid for by taxpayers. Instead, let's spend that revenue on something of use, like a bridge or a high-speed train.

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    Congrats on you re election. Florida can sure use someone like you. I know if I move it will be to a Oregon a place where people can actually have a discussion and disagree and also see each other's point of view.

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    Thanks for the observation, Patrick.

    Two thoughts on defense spending:

    1. I'm certainly not against changes or modifications.

    2. I think there's a misnomer about the level of defense spending. As it relates to GDP, we have basically spent the same amount since the 1800's. It was at it's height during the Cold War.

    All I'm suggesting is that I'm much more supportive of Kitzhaber's rhetoric than I would be of Blumenauer's if I lived in his district. I thought Kitzhaber had a very good speech this morning, which was positive, and encouraged both sides to work together. The Congressman's words seemed divisive and political to me, and I think that's what people are sick of.

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      Jason - You're a thoughtful guy and I enjoy reading your posts but could you please not use "misnomer" when you mean "misconception"? A misnomer is simply a misapplied or wrongly interpreted noun.

      Sorry, but it's one of those grammatical errors (along with the increasing use of "is" after "There's" followed by a plural, as in "There's lots of reasons why the Democrats did so badly") that drive me nutso.

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      Jason - a further thought on defense spending. At the present time our defense budget exceeds the defense budgets of every other country on Earth COMBINED! This is not security it is insanity! Back when the Berlin Wall fell we thought we were going to get a peace dividend, but the military-industrial complex kept us in the poorhouse with the willing participation of many of our elected representatives. There is no need for this level of defense spending.

      While we are on the subject of defense, during the Viet Nam was the young people of the country turned out in great numbers against the war and to protest it. In an attempt to avoid this happening again, the draft was eliminated and we went to an all volunteer military. This was a huge mistake. We should bring back the draft so everybody sees what a dreadful mistake a war of choice is!

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      LOL I am not surprised to find that there were more votes for Kitzhaber than there were total people who voted! That's because somebody 'discovered' 60,000 votes from dead people and pets and illegal aliens in their trunk the day after the election and used them to elect Kitzhaber... Susan when: (as you say) "The democratic turnout percentage exceeded the overall turnout in Multnomah county" that is proof of the voter fraud progressives are so fond of and proud of ...it is not a measurement of enthusiasm ...an authentic non stuffed count of the ballots is the true gauge of enthusiasm

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        Robert, re-read Sue's post.

        She said the Democratic turnout PERCENTAGE exceeded the overall turnout. In other words, Democrats voted at a higher rate than Republicans, NAVs, and Others.

        That's not evidence of fraud or shenanigans, it just means that Democrats got out and voted.

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        If you're going to play the idiot troll, at least do a competent job of it.

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        Oh yes. I've been hearing this RW Fairy Tale du jour. Good luck with that.

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        Kitzhaber would have won this race by a comfortable double digit margin where it not form the all the fraudulent votes by the hicks in Douglas county and (other rural counties) stuffing the ballot box for Dudley.

        Hey, this fabricating conspiracy of vote fraud out of thin air is kinda fun.

        Note: I don't actually consider voters in Douglas county, or other counties "hicks".

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    Nationally speaking Republicans in the previous election lost seats because they did respect liberty and were radical statists who would not listen to the objections of the people. The Democrats lost the house this election by a massive margin because they do not respect personal liberty, are radical statist and did not listen to the objections of the people. People are unhappy with government intervention in their lives period. Until we do something about that, the Republic will be a miserable place to live.

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      Correction, I intended to say did not respect liberty in the second sentence.

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      What rubbish. Name a single "personal liberty" that has not been respected by "the Democrats" since the 2008 election cycle.

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        That's an easy one. My right to choose to not purchase an insurance policy.

        But go ahead and stay out of touch with the American people. I liked how that worked out throughout most of the nation this year. Reform will come to Oregon, also. We're just behind the curve.

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          Do you drive? If so, you've already lost your right to choose not to buy an insurance policy.

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            Driving is a privilege. Not analogous at all.

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              Some people, including myself, believe access to health care should not be considered a privilege.

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              So what?

              Everyone potentially has health care/medical issues which will require treatment at some point in their life, unlike people who may never drive a motorized vehicle.

              So your "argument" actually works against your premise in that because everyone will have health issues at some point, everyone should be required to have insurance to pay for their medical treatment.

              But I do have to ask, why do you want to continue to pay for the most expensive, least effective medical care for the uninsured?

              Why do you insist that we allow the uninsured to sponge of the system which you and I have to puck up the tab for?

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          What nonsense. First, that has noting to do with "personal liberties" lost.

          Second, Medicare is mandatory insurance that everyone has to buy, as is Social Security yet no sane person views either as being a loss of person liberty when they pay into FICA, so again not even close to addressing what "personal liberties" have been lost/taken.

          BTW, you do know you are paying for the uninsured now, when they walk into an ER without insurance and the clinic/hospital has to cost-shift that onto you and me to cover it, yes?

          So I ask, why would you want to continue to subsidize the the cost of the uninsured via the most expensive least effective delivery of care (i.e. an ER visit)...?

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            If I am not working, I don't pay Medicare or FICA premiums. They are just taxes with a different label. That is completely different than being threatened with fines or jail time and a forced dunning like the health care bill. I am being forced to buy a product, not pay a tax.

            If you don't see the distinction as an infringement on personal liberty then we have no common ground.

            But then I am one of those libertarian types who believe in Government staying within their powers enumerated in the Constitution. Not exactly a popular position on this board.

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              So, Ken, that means you'll support a single-payer system that is payed from the general fund?

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              First of all, if you are unemployed, you have COBRA (short-term) or Medicaid (long-term).

              But beyond that, you think that people that are not working should be sponging off the system and not have to pay for their medical treatment when they go into an ER when they don't have insurance?

              So you think that owing property taxes should be waived when you are not working?

              Your argument makes zero sense. One could just as easily argue that people who refuse to carry health insurance for themselves are infringing on my personal liberties since they are forcing me to pay ore for my healthcare coverage.

              But that said, your claims that people would be facing jail-time shows your argument is simply not grounded in realty.

              There is no jail time for failure to have insurance under the Affordable Care Act, in fact is specifically has within its language there is no criminal penalty:

              (2) SPECIAL RULES- Notwithstanding any other provision of law—

              (A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES- In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.

              (B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES- The Secretary shall not—

              (i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or

              (ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.
              Of course I am not surprised that your ill-informed rant is not fact-based, but that you take misinformed nonsense about what the law does and doesn't do, and fabricate an infringement on "personal liberties: out of whole cloth only goes to underscore you are blowing hot air.

              You've got nothing. But I have to ask, why you feel compelled to invent fictitious infringements of "personal liberties" to get yourself all worked up over?

              Does it somehow make you feel better to become outraged over fictitious assaults on your "liberties" which simply are not real?

              Bizarre.

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            We have a right under the 9th and 10th amendment to a limited government and to live our lives without unnecessary government intrusion. Obama's policies allow for federal regulation of “economic decisions” ...our rights to have our borders secured and our laws enforced have been completely ignored by Obama, and he has taken the low road in suing a state who had to step in where the government failed us in performing that task. Had the GOP not stepped in and blocked some of the most ridiculous attempts to limit our speech our free and open (and fair ) elections with their pathetic and desperate attempts to limit political speech and circumvent the Supreme Courts decision with the "disclosure act' (what a joke) Luckily for us there are still some people who believe in the constitution I would be happy to give you a list of the ones he was succesful for now in taking away and another list of the ones he failed at taking away if you want there are some pretty good lists on the internet if you want to google for them.

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              Your rant is filled with nothing but empty rhetoric, which is simply not borne out in reality. Your fictitious "government intrusions" exist nowhere but in your fevered mind.

              WHy an=m I not surprised you cold not post a fact-based, coherent, and legitimate example of what you claim?

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            a majority of the uninsured who walk thru the doors of the ER are here illegally Mitchell and have no legal right to be in this country let alone to expect us to support them and their families in every conceivable way. so the answer to your question is NO i don't want to be required to pay for anything that has to do with illegal aliens. I have no problem chipping in to cover the costs of the legal uninsured...it would be nice to be able to write off the cost of the free care I provide but thats another issue for another day

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              Glad you bring up the need for comprehensive immigration reform. Too bad the GOP has blocked action on this issue, like the flip-flopper McCain who went from wanting to fix the problem, to demagoguing on it in order to win the GOP nomination in 2008.

              But the basic premise of your rant is simply fact-free drivel. But since treatment in an ER is rightfully not predicated on first determining residency status, why you insist on that you and I pay for the more expensive, less effective medical care due to cost shifting of treatment for the uninsured makes zero sense.

              Your straw-man about immigration enforcement (FYI the Obama administration has actually deported a record number illegal immigrants, more than the Bush administration did) aside, the bottom line is that you are insisting that we pay more money, for less effective healthcare because of lack of coverage of the uninsured.

              Why you insist that we all be forced to continue to pay for the most expenssive, least effective form of medical care delivery because you don't want to require everyon pay for healthcare insurance, is baffing.

              Why do you want to pay more money, to cover less people (i.e. what we have now)...?

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                I love how you use examples of existing human rights violations to push your new ones. You have no clue what liberty is and why you cannot simultaneously expand government and liberty at the same time. It is impossible. You cannot cover that paradox if your are fully informed. There are no principles in your arguments only ideas and effectiveness. Your better of being a prison warden than a political spinster. You never the question the authority to do what you propose, just use examples of other abuses to propose them. Absurd! Keep your hands and ideas off my life please. That would be a step towards freedom.

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                  So in your view, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are "human rights violations".

                  Gotcha.

                  So let me get this straight, you will insist that you never have medical treatment unless you pay up front for yourself, is that it? You are arguing that you require that no medical assistance be given you unless you first have your legal residency verified, and your insurance coverage verified first, yes?

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                  Mark, in your view, then, when government restricted child labor, was that also a restriction of liberty?

                  When it enacts and enforces workplace safety regulation, are those restrictions of liberty?

                  When it enforces contracts, is that a restriction of liberty? When it acts to keep the air and water clean, is that a restriction of liberty?

                  There's an old saying that your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. It appears that you want to be able to swing your fist, not matter what's in its way, with no consequences.

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        You must be kidding. How about my right not have to business with their friends (Health insurance for starters). Ask any Dem what freedom is and he has to go to a dictionary to look it up. How about the reauthorization of the patriot act in 2009 under Dem control? You cannot protect something that is contrary to your very party principles. Note this is not an endorsement of the previous administration.

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    Earl,

    I await the day that you understand politics. The GOP has no desire to work with you. They want to win at all cost. The GOP will only work to beat down the Democrats and define the message.

    When will you understand this and mount an appropriate OFFENSE.

    Stop playing defense!!!

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      jeeez Jenson I was hoping you had miraculously gotten smarter since you demonstrated your grasp of things in your last article about money. But you haven't. The GOP has no desire to aid and abet the looting of our government, the usurption of powers not specifically granted to the federal government or the bankrupting of this country...they will not work will earl on ushering in socialism, cap and tax, the dislcosure act, or any of the other ridiculous power grabs and spending increases we don't want and can't afford. If earl would like to jump over to the side of the majority of americans who don't think spending 1.5 trillion dollars a year more than we bring in isn't ok...we would be glad to have him. You and earl share one remarkable characteristic Jenson ...Neither one of you has demonstrated the ablity to learn yet!

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        More fact-free drivel.

        Over 2/3rds of the deficits under the Obama administration are the Bush tax cuts which were never paid for (they don't pay for themselves) and the two wars that Bush started which were finally put on budget. The rest is TARP and the stimulus, both of which were necessary, and TARP is actually going to make money for the tax-payer in the end.

        The rest of your rant is, as always, fact-free nonsense and paranoia.

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    I'd love to see reductions in military spending. Say, trim $200 billion per year from what we're spending to maintain a global military empire (overseas bases and our massive carrier fleet) and cold-war weapons systems with no mission. We'd still have the biggest, best-funded, most over-powered military in the world, but we could use half of the savings to reduce the deficit, and put another $100 billion per year into job-creating public works and infrastructure.

    But the Republicans will never go for it. Neither, sadly, will a lot of Democrats.

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    I am very, very proud to have Earl as my representative in Congress.

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    I wish we had more congreesmen like Earl, that are sticking with their principles and not taking this recent election to mean that they need to go to the right.

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      Earl's principles are not shared by a majority of americans nor are they consistent with good business or the founding documents of this country. It is his lack of principles that have once again relegated him to the back of the bus hopelessly powerless and irrelevant once again ...good bye earl!

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        Assuming, for the sake of argument, his "principles are not shared by a majority of Americans," they are the principles shared by a majority of those who vote in his district.

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    Thank you Rep. Blumenauer.

    I respected you as a Councilmember and you have done a fabulous job as a Member of Congress...I am happy to see you on the news shows because you are rational and direct.

    The 'Tan Man' says that the President is in denial and needs to know that America spoke in the Tuesday elections. Please remind Rep Boehner that people on the West Coast spoke too...and we prefer our policies progressive!

    Go forth and know we support you because you support us!

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      You mean Multnomah county and Lane county spoke pretty much the entire rest of the state said if they wanted to live under the burden of ridiculous and wasted) taxes and in a country that forced them to cede most of their rights over to the government in return for their entitlements then their ancestors would have stayed back in gr britain and europe...they came here to escape progressive politics and the nation just let the world know that we intend to keep it that way. Shame on John kitzhaber and Kate brown for stuffing the ballot box on dudley ... that last corrupt act is our national shame

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        Yes, those rights that we cherish in America are one person, one vote. No one is ready to give up that right that I know, except for the rabid right, like yourself.

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        Please cite any rights you have been forced to turn over.

        Also, are you aware that your taxes are lower under the Obama administration than at nearly any time in past century (in case you were unaware that a good chunk of the stimulus was middle class and small business tax cuts)...?

        Bonus point: Are you aware that regressive policies of NON-progressive societies are what European immigrants fled Europe to escape. But then I am hardly shocked to see you have history entirely backwards.

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          see my answer above ...right to limited government, right to secure borders, right to have ourlaws enforced ..all of them even the ones comrade obama doesn't like or that limit his ability to buy people's votes (si habla?)

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            More fact0-free drivel. None of what you cite are "rights you have been forced to turn over".

            It is particularly amusing given that the number if illegal immigrants is actually down under the Obama administration, and the Obama administration has actually carried out a record number of deportations of illegal immigrants. More than under the Bush administration.

            So by your "logic" Bush forced more of your rights to be turned over than the current administration, which, again by your logic", would be returning more of your "rights" to you.

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        "Shame on John kitzhaber and Kate brown for stuffing the ballot box on dudley"

        Please provide proof of your allegation.

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          But Kari, right-wingers don't need no stinkin' facts!

          Witness last week's allegations about the President's trip to India costing $200/day.

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    I agree with many of the previous posts. I would like to add to please remind Boehner (aka The Tan Man) that he does not speak for all voters. (I find him to be arrogant and his posturing & saber rattling just confirms that conclusion.) And I would like to remind you and your colleagues that the residents of the District of Columbia have NO vote at all. Please work to correct that grevious situation.

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    I know it's politic to talk about bipartisanship, but the GOP is simply malicious and evil. They want to keep a health insurance system going that kills 45 thousand people a year, and enriches their corporate contributors. There is nothing constructive or civil about them. As Jeff Merkley said it so truthfully, they set fire and burned the house down, then prevented with their filibusters the help to put out the fire. The GOP treats a good share of the American people as expendable. The sick who are without insurance should simply go off and die quietly, and the unemployed should go to a homeless shelter and stop collecting the unemployment benefits they paid for. So I understand,Earl, if you want to promote the idea that there is anything decent or good or moral in the other side, but there isn't. Because the health care bill passed my sister in law who has been recovering from cancer and has been dropped from insurance will now be able to live. The GOP wants to take down the health care bill and they are just fine if she and people like her simply die, but not be noisy about it. You won't find any common ground with people like that.

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    I am sorry Earl but your statements just don't mesh with the facts (again) The polling I just read from the nations top polling company ...THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...just told you and everyother congressman and woman on the left that THEY DONOT LIKE OR TRUST YOU MORE THAN THE REPUBLICANS! How could those election results, along with the grass roots efforts all across the country been any clearer? What color is the sky in your world? I have never heard such crappola in my life! In case you missed the outcome of the election the Republicans beat the Democrats like a DRUM up one side and down the other. It serves Oregonians right to have their representatives in congress relegated to obsurity and irrelevance for not being smart enough to know to vote out the people who put us in this ditch...namely you and the rest of Oregon's left wing congressional delegation. The multnomah county et.al. electorate is hardly informed or politically saavy ...how could they be when they also voted to keep david who? in office for 2 more years? Thank God those lines get to be redrawn very soon. In case you would prefer more traditional polling than a direct election by the people Here is what another top polling firm had to say:

    This survey of 1,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted October 24-25, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

    Republican candidates currently hold a nine-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot.
    Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on eight out of 10 important issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports including the economy and health care. Most voters think their representative in Congress does not deserve reelection if he or she voted for the national health care law, the auto bailouts or the $787-billion economic stimulus plan. Voters overwhelmingly believe – by an 81% to 10% margin – that most members of Congress are more interested in helping their own careers than in helping people. That, too, is a sentiment that has changed little in recent months. Forty-four percent (44%) also say most members of Congress are corrupt, However, 70% now think most members of Congress are willing to sell their vote for cash or a campaign contribution, up 14 points from the summer of 2007. Fifty-six percent (56%) say it’s likely that their own representative in Congress has sold his or her vote.

    That poll was from last week and also contradicts everything you said. wow!

    There was absolutely zero compromise and zero trasparency on the 'healthcare reform" Bill ...None!

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      The Republican pollster,Rasmussen, was shown to be the most flawed pollster of the election season. That said, it should be noted that the big error of the Dems was trying to compromise and allowing the charade of the Senate Committee on Finance to include the charade of GOP compromise and amendments, when they never intended to do anything but filibuster.

      AP/Ipsos polling shows that the primary objection that most Americans had with the health care bill was that it didn't go far enough and lacked a public option. Consistent polling across the board showed solid majorities favoring a public option. That's the next step and it will happen in time because even this health care bill will not rescue the failure of corporate health insurance.

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        Didn't go far enough? Are you sniffing glue again Bill? Do you really believe that all of those Congressman and Senators were sent out to pasture by the voters on Tuesday because the Health Care tax didn't go far enough? The poll taken via the popular vote of all of those americans from coast to coast chose to vote in all of those conservatives because they wanted more liberal policies and faster? please! Bill no one can possibly believe that...

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          I repeat as a rabid right troll you are incompetent and full of uninformed opinion. But that is the characteristic of the rabid right, belief based and not fact based politics.

          Here are some links: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/25/politics/main6899989.shtml

          http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100925/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_poll

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            I have posted here for over a year bill ... there is nothing rabid and everything right about only spending money you can afford to spend Bill ...hello?

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          Yes Robert. Didn't go far enough. Most to the Democratic members of the House that lost voted against HCR. Furthermore the actual opinion survey's show that if you take those who support the healthcare reform law, and add in those who don't support it because it doesn't go far enough, you get a clear majority.

          This is one of the reasons (and similar to many other issues) as to why Obama has hemorrhaged support form the left, which didn't turn out to the same levels they did in 2008.

          As always, you have it entirely backwards.

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            no mitchell the actual opinion surveys DO NOT show that you shopuld stick to topics you know something about because you are way over your head on this one son. That is if you can find one...The left blew the largest supermajority in history in 2 short years because they didn't understand things any better than you do which takes us back to the one poll nop one is too stupid to understand ...you lost and you lost so badly it was almost biblical!,..WAKE UP!

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      Except that actual data shows otherwise.

      Take the healthcare reform law for example. If you take the number of people that support it, and add in the number of people who don't support it because it didn't go far enough (most of the left) it far surpasses those who oppose it and are ignorantly pushing for repeal.

      All the polling data shows that Democrats lost seats (mostly Blue Dog seats I might add) because the voting public thinks that the government hasn't done enough to address things like unemployment, not taking Wall Street to the woodshed enough, etc. Not because of "over-reach"

      The number of voters who backed McCain and voted GOP this time remained the same. the droop off was the number of Obama voters who didn't turn out this time. Many Obama voters didn't turn out because of the aforementioned view that there wasn't enough change away from the Bush era policies of more war, more tax cuts for the rich (both of which account for over 2/3rds of the huge deficits your team it trying to blame on the Obama administration) and more de-regulation of the finical escort (which caused this mess in the first place).

      As always, your post bears no resemblance to reality or the facts.

      Do you honestly think the Democrats lost the House because voters think the Congress did too much in addressing unemployment? That the government too much in fixing Wall Street screw-up? That we have too little war?

      DO you really think voters voted conservative Democrats out (and thus losing control of the House) because they want to go back to being denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions or any other vacuous reasons put forward why people should hate HCR?

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        they voted out every type of democrt who no longer represented their belief's Mitchell they voted them out because it's not the govt's job to fix unemployment it's the govt's job to get out of the way and allow unemployment to fix itself. Government caused most of these problems mitchell and I don't remember who said it but someone famous once said that you never send in the same people who caused a problem to fix it. (Wall Street) Wall street gave 90% of it's money for the last 3 years to democrats... their partners in bailing them out of their bad bets. you didn't become obscure footnotes in history because of the loss of conservative democrats you became an obscure footnote because YOU BURIED THIS COUNTRY IN DEBT.Obama added more to the national debt that every president from 1776-1990 COMBINED! WAKE UP MITCHELL!

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          More fact-free drivel. Over 2/3rds of the deficits under the Obama administration were the Bush tax cuts which weren't paid for, and the two wars Bush started which were carried "off budget" and were simply put back on budget.

          That you think that there is zero responsibility of the government to address unemployment shows that your views are way outside the mainstream. In fact, unemployment was the number one concern of voters according to all the exit polls.

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    The huge losses at the federal and state level are clear indicators that progressives misinterpreted the 2008 results. The Multnomah County vote further reinforces the huge divide existing between our citizens within Oregon and the other states.

    Perhaps it truly is time for creating the state of Jefferson. Should we recognize our differences are not going to be reconciled and go separate ways?

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      Ah, a secessionist! Maybe you should follow Sharon Angle's stand and follow second amendment remedies.

      In truth on health care both exit polls and AP/Ipsos polling shows most Americans felt the Health Care bill's main flaw was that it didn't go far enough. Next step is public option.

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      From what I'm reading here and elsewhere, conservatives are misinterpreting the 2010 elections.

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        I don't see how the message the voters delivered could possibly be any clearer or open to misinterpretation Carla

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          Why am I not shocked.

          Voters are pissed because they feel not enough has been done to address unemployment, and not enough has been done to hold Wall Street to account for the disaster they wrought. The voters are pissed not because the government has done too much, but hasn't done enough.

          The bulk of losses the Democrats suffered were those who opposed HCR for example. It was "conservative Dems that lost, not liberal ones. WHy do you think DeFazio won? Why do you think Schrader won? Why do you think Wu won? Why do you think Kitzhaber won?

          They were in trouble not because voters feel the government overreached and did too much.

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            If I live to be 200 I will never understand how Wu won.. probably due to the funky way they redrew the lines of his district to bleed off just enough lefties from portland to give him enough votes, Can't imagine how a liberal got elected in lane county can you? I do appreciate DeFazio's votes on immigration. It should be noted that he also spent alot of time trying to kill the messenger than he did trying to deny the message. He was dropping so fast in the polls he had to ind a judge to stop Robinson's ads from running which lasted just long enough for a judge to hear from the other side. Kitzhaber stole the election through the use of illegal and unethical voter fraud.

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              "Kitzhaber stole the election through the use of illegal and unethical voter fraud."

              Cite your sources, if you're going to make allegations of criminal misconduct.

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    As I recall Americans didn't like the "health care bill" but liked the individual parts.

    Even many republicans have said they want to keep the popular parts (no pre-existing conditions & get rid of the req to have coverage (a GOP idea by the way-they were for a mandate before they were against it).

    Obama DID compromise w/the GOP & conservative dems; otherwise there would have been a public option, the stimulus would have been larger, the financial reform would have had a tax on the banks.

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    The Kaiser Family Foundation has tracked that views on the actual bill have been evenly split.

    When views about the provisions of the bill are surveyed, overhwhelming numbers of Americans suppport: -An end to exclusions of coverage based on prior conditions. -An end to denials of coverage for technical reasons. -providing in state insurance exchanges providing group insurance for every American. -providing tax credits to small businesses to provide insurance coverage. -An end to the denial of insurance coverage to children. - Subsidies to low income to purchase insurance - in-state risk pools for hard to cover Americans. -mandating that insurance companies spend a certain percentage of fees on actual care instead of profits or administrative costs.

    Let's see the GOP try to take down these and other popular provisions controlling one chamber of Congress.

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    Dr. Summer, you need to get back to work with your patients. I hope you learned more medicine than you have learned politics else your med mal insurance is going to be sky high and people may get sicker rather than better. Using Rasmussen for polling information in light of their ending up giving Republicans nearly 4% more than they actually received starts you out in a bad place.

    I am getting tired of hearing how 70% of the state voted differently than Multnomah/Lane county. That's where the people are man. Cows, sheep, sagebrush and fir trees don't get to vote.

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    I will say this, any Democrat that reaches across the aisle had better count their fingers. I"d like to note that House (R)s have no political reason to do spit with (D)s.

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    Sometimes I wonder if we live in the same country. The country I live in had a President tell Republican Senators: "Elections have consequences; I won, we're doing it my way." The country I live in had every single one of the Republican amendments and proposals to the health care bill rejected without even a vote in the full body of the Senate and the House.

    And in the world you live in, this is Democrats "reaching out to Republicans?"

    There was no attempt at anything approaching bi-partisanship by the Dems in Congress the last four years.

    Of course, now that Vox Populi has returned the House to the Republicans, the Dems are suddenly clamoring for "bi-partisanship."

    I am thoroughly enjoying these posts on this thread. Keep the hubris coming and the disdain for the intelligence and alacrity of the American people oozing from your statements. It will make my job easier in 2012. I think the Republicans learned their lesson from the whuppin' they took in 2006 and 2008. I also think the Democrats will take their cue from the President and refuse to learn their lesson.

    Hee, hee. Good times.

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      Guess what, we still have the same president, the same party in control of the Senate. In fact even in the House, the GOP barely have the numbers in the House that they had before the mid-terms in Clinton's second term.

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    First, a link to the Rasmussen poll that Congressman Blumenauer referenced in his post.

    Secondly, I would caution democrats and progressives alike from relaxing too much in the "Left Coast is safe" meme. The results of this election cycle reinforces a previously suggested strategy of acting on a tough, bold campaign regarding environmental, energy and health care legislation as smart-but-time consuming.

    Finally, the GOP's claim on a "mandate" is not one that's based entirely on policy rejection. Instead it would be better attributed to the citizens' perception of intangible results and/or benefits derived from the historic legislation that has passed into law during these past two years.

    Voters know it takes time to see results from legislation, but - and perhaps more mindfully than ever before - this is a nation that expects its pizzas to be delivered in 30 minutes or less. After Tuesday it would appear that Congress has a new pie baking in the pizza oven, and the question is will there be a driver to deliver it to the correct address, and within the company's advertised time-frame?

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    Now that the House progressive caucus has three times as many members as do the blue dogs, isn't it (finally) time that we have a minority leader like Raul Grijalva or Peter DeFazio?

    It's time (way past time) to really fight the fascists!

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    Earl,

    If you and other progressive leaders intend to drastically cut government spending at all levels, audit the Federal Reserve bank, unleash the taxation and regulation burden on enterprise AND STOP picking winners and losers and thus defeating the point of the free market, I'd venture to say that you will attract many Republican supporters in Congress and the wave that DESTROYED the progressive super-majority at the Federal and Oregon state level will subside and our government will begin to function as intended.

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